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Seeking asylum is no game : Comments

By Susan Metcalfe, published 12/10/2009

The Opposition’s dialogue on asylum seekers is archaic and makes no sense.

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Just listening to this morning’s radio news - another boat load of Sri Lankan “refugees”

These are not people who are persecuted. They are not the victims of civil strife, recalling the Tamil terrorist rebellion ended some month s ago.
These people are what is called “economic refugees” which is not a valid reason for being considered a “refugee”.

The boats should be either

1 treated as misplaced/misdirected and turned around.
OR
2 treated as “hostile” and the Australian Defense forces use all military means at their disposal to ensure they do not land on Australian sovereign territory, sinking being but one option.

Those misguided idiots and so called “advocates”, who believe we should accept the waifs and strays of every other land, need to understand, their sort of Anarchy will bring any community to its knees and to be honest, I do not wish to live like that and nor do I wish it upon my children or grand children.

The Howard government had the right policies but Krudd & Co could never accept that, such is the extent of socialist hubris.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 10:18:03 AM
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Aah how the *Blue Wolves* howl.

But putting the merits of your arguments to one side, and to assume that no one is advocating for a return to policies which arguably constitute child abuse, for my 2c worth, I would suggest to you that you are out of sync, off the pulse and not contributing as you have the potential to do in the national interest.

Now, for what its worth, and taking into account that in reality I only have a relatively very limited vantage point, Mr Wudd a.k.a pm Krudd has done a most excellent thing in drawing close to SBY at this point in time i.m.h.o.

The basis for this view is this. One of the two "terrorists" that they shot in their rooms recently was, according to recent local press reports here, a qualified pilot, educated and with technical skills ranging beyond mere bomb making. Just have a think about that for a moment. ..

I would suggest that the best recipe for success for bagging Indo hardliners is one that has Indonesians on the front line. And that has started to happen.

So in brief, and noting that everyone is unsure of themselves and that none of us is perfect, at a time of solemn reflection and also celebration, don't take it as an opp to knock him off his balance, but rather, take the time to help shine the warm fuzzy spotlight on the commendable achievements, let relevant parties have a bask in glow of mutual public appreciation, breathing in .. and breathing out.

Recently N.M.Top, this latest character and others and the hunt goes on. I reckon extended warm fuzzies over the real time links is appropriate with public involvement. ..

There is still a lot of mistrust and a sincere smile goes a long way in Indonesia.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 9:35:06 PM
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* by saying yesterday that the Government's policy struck a balance between the hardline and the humane.*

http://www.smh.com.au/national/rudd-talks-tough-on-people-smugglers-20091014-gxgk.html

Sheesh, our Kevie is so busy playing politics here, that perhaps
he does not even recognise, that it is his very policy that is
confusing refugees in the first place.

Perhaps if Theresa told him that she loved him one day, only to
tell him the next day to go away and leave her alone, he might
land up confused too :) But that is exactly what his present
policy is doing.

Asylum seekers on Christmas Island will no doubt be emailing and
phoning their many friends, about the free i-pods, great food,
medical care and money given to them by the taxpayer. Next thing
their friends are fought off with sticks, if they happen to be
on the wrong boat. No wonder these people are stressed!

Kevie would be too, if Theresa was as inconsistent as he is, when
it comes to his boat people policy.

Its time to shut down the boat trade completely and take all refugees
from refugee camps. This saga has gone on for far too long.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 15 October 2009 10:00:53 AM
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Free i-pods, Yabby? I don't suppose you'd like to provide some evidence for your hateful claims?

Not persecuted, Col? You must read the news coming out of Sri Lanka very selectively indeed.

I note that the desperate Turnbull has turned up the volume on his dog-whistle in the last couple of days. With so many willing responders to his hateful tune, I expect to hear much more of it.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 15 October 2009 10:32:36 AM
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CJ and others,

I admire you all trying to take the moral high ground by extending sympathy and caring for the immigrants who arrive on boats but I think you have your head in the clouds or somewhere else. I also love that anyone who disagrees with you is "hateful" and "racist".

I would point out that there has been virtually no comments including from Mr Turnbull indicating that there should be no refugees admitted, or that refugee intake should be decreased.

Go to google images and type in "refugee camp". Then take a look at the pictures. Do any of those people look like they have the ability to travel half way across the world and pay tens of thousands of dollars to people smugglers?

If these boatloads of people were really refugees, they would be jumping for joy that they had reached a safe country like Indonesia, not paying top dollar to get on board a cramped decrepit old boat that might sink to travel to Australia. You bleeding hearts see this as an example of their desperation. I see it as an example that they are trying to reach Australia, not seek refuge.

The purpose of fleeing persecution is to flee persecution, is it not? If these people are not being persecuted in Indonesia why continue to Australia?
Posted by burbs, Thursday, 15 October 2009 11:01:48 AM
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Some things can't be bought with money.

" ... Ostrarlee sama aja Amerika, musuh BESAR! ... "

The above is an alleged quote allegedly taken from the laptop of N.M.Top and reported here quite openly in the local Indo media so undoubtedly is not news to those who are informed.

Babel Fish:
Australia is the same as (and not different) to America,
a BIG enemy.

..

What about a tech transfer to upgrade the "Indonesia Id card" with a chip, send some salary techs into Indo on a mates basis at their discretion, and help them role out an on-line data matching system.

They've already got a street level paper based registration of civi's system, overlorded by a series of competing fragemented departments.

Instituting a national effective taxation system is high on the Indo agenda and will have lots of good spin offs for everyone if done fairly and firmly.

..

Currently, due to a lack of incentive and supervision, people on the ground get to fill in their own details for the formation of the I.D. card in some Indo jurisdictions, and that is one of the 2 primary documents required to make a visa to Australia. The family card is a gimme once u've got an ID card and in the case of Top, he had different families and a bunch of wives all over the show. So, enter on one set of cards, leave on another.

..

Thus, in terms of illegal entrants, in no insignificant way, in those areas where you think you are strongest you are in fact weakest, and where you assert we are weakest, we are in fact strongest.

..

*BEYONCE*

" ... Baby I won't shed a tear for you

(Harmonies)I won't shed a tear

I won't lose a wink of sleep
as the truth of the matter is replacing you is so easy

to the left to the left, to the left to the left,
mmmmmmm
to the left to the left,
everything you own in a box to the left,
to the left to the left ... "
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 15 October 2009 2:52:37 PM
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