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By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 3/8/2009

Last week wasn't a one-off, the 'Kyle and Jackie O Show' has a history of sordid publicity stunts.

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Melinda, you'll be reassured to know that the radio station employing these idiots has taken up your call to "self-regulate" by announcing that their "show" will be in recess as of 29/7 "until we have completed an across-the-networks review of the principles and protocols of our interaction with our audience".

Hopefully the outcome of that review will be a commitment to basic respect for human dignity and a modicum of decorum. But I won't hold my breath.

In the meantime can I suggest that people approach the sponsors of the "show" and let them know in no uncertain terms that they will simply boycott their businesses while they support this sort of thing?

You don't have to be a listener, just a potential customer of those sponsors.

The hip pocket nerve can be a very strong stimulus for change.
Posted by bitey, Monday, 3 August 2009 10:06:56 AM
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I'm no fan of "shock jocks" and i've never listened to the show in question, but it strikes me that there is an issue here that is not being discussed - was the girl telling the truth?

If she was, is the matter being properly pursued? Rape is a serious allegation.

If she wasn't, then the outrage from Ms Tankard is somewhat misplaced, surely?

If the rape claim had not been made, would Ms Tankard have felt the same outrage? I suspect she would not and hence the truth of the girl's claim in central to her piece, yet she never even asks the question.

I guess when you're lining up with the rest of the sisterhood to kick someone then you don't ask questions, just get the steel-capped Blunnies swinging.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 3 August 2009 10:43:22 AM
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Honesty Antiseptic! True or not true, a young person was strapped to a lie detector on a radio station and asked about her sexual behaviour! Yeesh. I wouldn't do that to my adult children. Normal parents just don't behave in this fashion. We aren't supposed to be the ones handing out the abuse.

The radio stations behaviour in running this grub, was beyond the pale. Getting idiot adults up to participate in this moron stuff is one thing, but an underage person - no way.

Anyway I hope that the girl ends up selling her story, gets contol of the money and and kisses her drop dead mother goodbye for good. Wonder where Dad was in this too.
Posted by JL Deland, Monday, 3 August 2009 11:05:44 AM
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JL Deland, I'm not condoning the treatment of the girl, merely questioning the source of Ms Tankard's outrage.

She made much of the rape allegation, yet seemingly has not even questioned it's veracity. My point is that she would probably not have raised a finger to type anything if the girl had not claimed rape. Therefore, it is valid to question whether the rape occurred.

The wider issue for Ms Tankard seems to be the sexual nature of some of the stuff put to air by the show rather than the treatment of the girl outside the context of the claimed rape.

It's a straight feminist piece-to-air.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 3 August 2009 11:26:47 AM
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It must have been bad if some secularist are now saying it is wrong. I wonder on what premise they come to their conclusion. It could not be conscience could it? DCD should of taken this child from her mother a long time ago. Or are they to busy chasing parents who love their kids enough to give a smack to when they throw tantrums. Only a very sick me generation would tune into such filth.
Posted by runner, Monday, 3 August 2009 12:07:31 PM
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"My point is that she would probably not have raised a finger to type anything if the girl had not claimed rape. Therefore, it is valid to question whether the rape occurred".

"It's a straight feminist piece-to-air".

I've got a pretty strong feeling that even if this girl hadn't made a rape allegation, the 'do do' would have hit the fan on this one, and we still would have seen an outraged article from Ms Tankard. For any young person to be placed in such as situation is outrageous. Feminists and even people like Andrew Bolt are standing shoulder to shoulder on this one.

As for the veracity of the rape allegation, the Mother's and the radio station opening her daughter up to such a privacy breach, and now speculation as to whether she is telling the truth or not, can only be harmful.

This isn't about feminism or the show's running seedy sexual stuff in the past but the abuse of a young person. While Tankard gives the past seedy stuff a run, it could be said that it gives weight to the fact that a underage person should not have ever been allowed to be put on radio like this, and it was not a random 'accident'. The whole situation was wrong.
Posted by JL Deland, Monday, 3 August 2009 12:11:37 PM
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When I was a single father and reported my then 8-year old daughter being sexual abused other then becoming the primary suspect I found no assistance at all. If just Kyle Sandilands had been there my daughter could have at least had assistance. I then took my daughter to the hospital and medical statement was provided that the healing of the injuries my daughter had sustained were consistent with the time frame when she had been on access to her mother. Unbeknown to me then my daughters half sibling (then 10 years old – now an adult) was at the Children Court also having complained about being sexual abused then by the mothers husband, and the Children Court ordered him to stay away from the matrimonial home. In general I never particularly liked Kyle Sandilands but in this case regarding the alleged rape incident I rather view people should lay off from Kyle as if the girl now finally gets to assistance she was for so long denied then is not that what every child is entitled upon in the first place
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 1:15:30 AM
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Antiseptic, your argument that the veracity of the rape claim is central to the issue is completely spurious. You are merely endorsing the very notion of this squalid radio program and its even more squalid lie detector test - that it is somehow acceptable to strap a child to a lie detector in order to discuss her under-age sexual experiences and assess her honesty. One does not have to assume she is truthful (although there is no reason not to) to be outraged, nor does one need to be a 'feminist'. The word 'rape' may well be, sad to say, what is required to bring this repugnant program to the attention of the wider media and public; the mere fact a 14yo girl should be forced/encouraged/induced by three people including her own mother to utter these words on radio is itself a disgrace. Your mocking dismissal of the author is almost what one would expect from the odious, talent-free numbskulls who present the program.
Posted by Rapscallion, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:37:44 AM
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Posted by Rapscallion, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:37:44 AM

What you havent said Rapscallion is that this child was 'mentally' Raped again and this time for profit ; surely prostituting a minor must be illegal ?
Before the radio event only the mother , daughter and rapist knew about the rape now the world does , the daughter is marked for life , and Sandilands profits and has a laugh for the rest of his life and since he has not been charged with at least 'Gross Indecency to a Minor' it must be legal ?
Posted by ShazBaz001, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 12:03:08 PM
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For me, there is an underlying ideological message involved- that powerful people; eg media and other authority figures, have the right to reduce the rest of us to the level of non-person.
Underlying this is the refusal of the so called regulator to take action against Austereo. Instead, Austereo have removed these multi-million dollar a year cretins because their high-profile sponsors have objected.
"Market forces triumph", thus
cheer the laissez-faire advocates of corporatist culture, but we get a glimpse of what a future society based exclusively on the whims of the deregulated "corporate psychopath" might look like, with the grotesque and medieval treatment of the helpless girl.
Media Watch and others like Amanda Meade of the Australian, for some time have related the tawdry stunts of this show, obviously aimed at the exploitation, regardless of the probable psychic reduction, of the commodified massive young audience.
Posted by paul walter, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 3:48:37 AM
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Yeah I don't believe feminism has anything to do with this issue either. Common sense and "decency" (whatever that is) are more to the point. Kyle and Jackie O aside, what the hell was the mother thinking, and how did the mangement think they'd even get away with such a stunt, let alone think it was a good idea?. Mind you, judging on reports from Media Watch, this sort of tripe has been broadcast on this breakfast radio program for years. So isn't it amazing how the major sponsors have pulled out only after the outrage in the media since, to do with this particular stunt?

SM
Posted by silent minority, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 1:20:32 PM
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Interesting to wake up and find Rob Denehy's new inclusion at "Public Opinion" entitled,
"Decline of American Civilisation- are the dark ages coming?".
To me the article really relates to what's being talked about here.
The lead-in for the Denehy article goes along these lines:
"Trends in American culture, education and communication may be creating a perfect storm of ignorance", specifically relating to the young.
Not that exogenous forces feeding off the brains of the young is anything new- beleive me I know, I grew up in the 'sixties and 'seventies.
All about attention-spans and loss of ability to relate to others. Perhaps it all demonstrates the processes involved in the manufacturing of of people utterly voided of empathy, as demonstrated in examples like Jackie O, Kyle Sandilands and other elements of tabloid MSM?
Posted by paul walter, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 2:01:55 PM
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In response to the last post by Paul Walter....

empathy. Now there's an old fashioned concept lol
Posted by silent minority, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 2:14:59 PM
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