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Junk the jihad, it's jargon we need : Comments

By Richard Ackland, published 13/7/2009

Attorney-General Robert McClelland is confident that if we get the lingo right 'community harmony' will be strengthened and extremists 'disempowered'.

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Good grief!

Prior to the onset of political correctness wasn't this sort of manipulation called brainwashing?

Another favourite meaningless term used in national security is 'whole-of-government approach' which explains the huge cost and duplication in the area of counter-terrorism.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 13 July 2009 9:44:01 AM
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While we're at it we need an army, navy and air force. They are labeled the Australian Defence Forces (ADF). If there were truth in labeling that would mean they could not attack, occupy or aid in natural emergencies such as flood or fire they could only defend. We need a military which can do more than that.

The Australian Parliamentary information service could locate no legislative or administrative document which authorised the use of the name, Australian Defence Forces, as a designation for the Australian military. The designation, ADF, has no legislative or administrative sanction.
Posted by david f, Monday, 13 July 2009 10:20:18 AM
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Politicians just don’t get it. The first word to be dropped should be ‘terrorism’; Islamic fundamentalists are fighting a religious war; terrorism is just one part of that war. Here’s a tip from an English journalist:

‘The problem, however, is that it (the UK Government) doesn’t understand what Muslim extremism is. Believing that Islamic terrorism is motivated by an ideology which has “hijacked” and distorted Islam, it will not acknowledge the extremism with mainstream Islam itself.’

Even though many Muslims don’t share the violent attitude, Islamic radicalism lies at the heart of Islam. Islamic radicalism (terrorism/violence/murder/hatred of others) is based upon ‘authentic precepts’.

McClelland’s ‘… base criminal behaviour…’ has nothing to do with a religious war aimed at subduing the West. McClelland, like UK politicians and other Australian politicians, has his head wedged in the sand. He doesn’t want to think about what should have been thought of before large numbers of Muslims were allowed into Australia.

‘Attorney-General McClelland is confident that if we get the lingo right "community harmony" will be strengthened and extremists "disempowered".’

Huh! The problem is that consecutive governments in Australia, with the help of the multiculturalism industry, have not been plain-speaking enough. The Hawke government, then the Keating government, re-defined the word ‘racist’ so that it could be hurled at anyone who dared to question multiculturalism or the virtue of allowing large groups of Muslims into Australia.

Now another Labor government wants to tone down further any ‘sensitive’ language, and in doing so, is abrogating its responsibilities to the great majority of Australians.

This is just another example of politicians in the West trying to cover up their mistake in actually inviting (!) people into our society who should never have been here. The less said the better. Ignore what common sense tells us; don’t upset the ethnic vote. And, now that the so-called conservative side of politics has caught on to the benefits of the ethnic vote, they are into the same behaviour too.

In Australia, America, Britain and Europe, the Islamists are taking advantage of us, and we are letting them
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 13 July 2009 3:37:02 PM
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It doesn't matter what WE call them. Islamists will still talk among themselves of jihad, in the Al-Quaida/Qutb sense: violent armed struggle to kill all unbelievers or subjugate all of us to a Muslim Caliphate.

The idea of “jihad” as inner struggle against yourself to submit completely to Allah's law doesn't compute for demented Islamists. See UK writer Martin Amis’s long article in The Observer on 10 September 2006 titled "The age of horrorism" - at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/sep/10/september11.politicsphilosophyandsociety .

Political correctness in use of language has gone bonkers. A UK woman minister recently forbade the term "Islamic terrorism", directing instead "anti-Islamic activity". WHAAAAAAT?

Relativistic multicultural sensitivities are of no use here. Islamists are not "disempowered" by words we choose. Their cult of death is not a reaction to past or present “injustices” by the West. It is a reaction to the gnawing but unadmitted realization inside themselves that their whole culture is a **loser**. They wallow in self-righteousness, self-pity, self-hatred and conspiracy theories, especially that all their misfortunes are the fault of the "accursed Jew".

Spain translates as many books into Spanish, annually, as the Arab world has translated into Arabic in the past 1,100 years. In 2002 the aggregate GDP of all the Arab countries was less than the GDP of Spain. The Islamic states lag behind both the West and the Far East in every index of industrial and manufacturing output, job creation, technology, literacy, life-expectancy, human development, and intellectual vitality.

Let our authorities use terms like "mass murder" rather than "jihad" to describe what demented Islamists do, but don't deny ethnic/religious typing. While "moderate" Islam is always well-represented in the public debate, where it matters it is invisible. Islamism has become the shopfront. I haven't seen opposition by "moderate Muslims" to the wearing of imprisoning burkas and niqabs in Australia - the female equivalent of balaclavas.

Islamic (not just Islamist) theology is mediaeval, misogynist, totalitarian religious fascism. I have no patience with those who say we shouldn’t call horseshit horseshit. Islamists won't be deterred by whatever words we use - they're off the planet anyway.
Posted by Glorfindel, Monday, 13 July 2009 3:56:05 PM
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Would the phrase, “cold bloody murdering thugs” be appropriate and satisfy the demands of political correctness?
Posted by anti-green, Monday, 13 July 2009 5:20:57 PM
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What Robert McClelland should realise is that the Liberal Party introduced Islamic Law, into Australia from 1966 on, and Islamics and their fellow travelers feel right at home here. In an Islamic Sharia Court Statute Law is faithfully carried out without mercy. Hands are cut off and I even saw a You tube video of a penis being removed from a rapist.

Sharia law is where a Priest , one Man decides cases brought before him arbitrarily. We did not have that happen in Australia until the Bankruptcy Act 1966, gave Judges an option in bankruptcy to be a Muslim Judge and sit without a jury, or a Christian Justice and sit with one.

Not one Judge has yet sat with a jury in bankruptcy since then, in the Federal Court, though you could request and get a jury trial in Queensland in bankruptcy matters, until the Liberals abolished the State Supreme Courts bankruptcy jurisdiction in 1996. Now a person has no choice. Even though the Parliament of the Commonwealth has given a Judge an option to be a Christian or an Islamic Terrorist, in s 30 (3) Bankruptcy Act 1966 they have chosen to put the fear of Allah, into every litigant before them since 1966.

Their favourite prosecutor of bankruptcy matters is the Taxman. He get favorable treatment from every Judge, but then at $6000 a week as a salary, it pays to do as the master demands. I have seen many of them sweat while they decided to reject Christianity and go Islamic, but they faithfully serve Canberra, or the Big Banks, and even though the Commonwealth has given them to option of a jury, and even offered to pay for them so the poor bloody peasant can get a fair go, they still refuse.

The High Court said this is illegal in 1996, and unconstitutional. However with a High Court that has been neutered and put totally in the control of Public Servants on $7000 a week, who control what is heard, then the poor Christians have no chance of getting justice in any Federal Court.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 13 July 2009 6:22:34 PM
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Robert McClelland and the denizens of his Department are the direct descendants of Voodoo Magic. In past primitive Africa the Medicine Man would UTTER a word and evil would disappear. In modern Australia, America, and Europe it appears that most of its politicians believe that by NOT UTTERING the word “jihad” or “Islamist terrorist” the evil of terrorism would disappear. The enlightened Attorney-General’s Department by practising Voodoo Magic they might just eradicate Muslim terrorism.

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Posted by Themistocles, Monday, 13 July 2009 6:33:00 PM
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If Robert McClelland and Richard Ackland think that Australia is a great place to be a Muslim, they are right. The Courts of Australia and Baghdad are exactly the same, and merge Church and State into one totally terrorist organization. Because Muslims have been brought up in a State of Fear, generated by draconian penalties, and even the regular application of the death penalty, they feel completely at home in the benevolent dictatorship exercised by Judges and Magistrates in Australia.

In Australia a free press, more or less curbs the excesses of the Judges, and a Court of Appeal does too, but the fact remains that a Christian court has a jury, and the merger of Church and State under Islam has Courts. England has Courts now, instead of courts in all civil cases, and its no wonder they are getting trouble from their three million Muslim members of their society.

If the Islamists knew they had to face a Christian court every time they committed an offence, and a Christian court was restored to its prerogative of sentencing as well, as the finding of guilt or innocence, then they would probably no longer laugh at our justice system, and think twice about offending.

The Magna Carta in force in England in 1960, published in Halsbury’s Statutes of England which can be located in Fisher Library in Sydney, discloses that both sentencing and conviction was the prerogative of a jury. A fine was always to be offered, since 1275, when the First Statute of Westminster was enacted to give people a choice, fine or jail, and the right to free election. Election meant trial by jury or Judges at Bar. It had to be three Judges though, not one.

This Statute is fully transcribed in the Imperial Acts Application Act 1980 ( Vic). Its not in New South Wales but then as Islamists we have our own country here in New South Wales, and no way to tell them it is not Christian to be a republic, and forbidden by the Australian Constitution. Sticks and stones break bones. Words never.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 13 July 2009 6:46:49 PM
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