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Out of sight out of mind is not the answer to carbon emissions : Comments

By Anita O'Callaghan, published 2/10/2008

Carbon capture and storage: 'there's only so long you can keep a fart under a doona'!

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JBowyer, Anita is not paid for this - she makes large sacrifices in her life in dedication to making the biosphere a bit more sustainable for all of us (and I have never been paid a cent for climate activism either).

In contrast, there is a well documented letter-writing and net-trawling campaign paid for by the fossil fuels lobby. I'm not saying that the climate denialists on this site are paid, but it just takes a few voices of dissent to put the scientific consensus into question.

Once you all get degrees in climate science and get your theories about natural climate change published in peer-reviewed journals I'll be pay more attention to you than the entire scientific world (contrary to popular thought there is no real disagreement among climate scientists that climate change is happening and caused by human activity - there have been numerous studies which have shown that no peer-reviewed article in the past decade questions this assumption).

Tectonic plate movements do not put the majority of life on earth at risk - climate change does, and what's more, we can do something about it.

As Ross Garnaut said in his report this week, CCS doesn't have much time left to prove itself. If it can't, we need to know as quickly as possible so that we can begin an immediate transition to technologies which already exist. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to wait around to find out.
Posted by hopeleft, Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:38:59 PM
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Rudd loves to talk about making the tough decisions, but in reality his economic conservatism will see him going out of his way to help Australia's worst polluters and the lazy CEO's of Australian industry.

Kevin's efforts to accellerate renewables is highly questionable - the solar industry is in great uncertainty. Any realist can see that the cost, inefficiency and high risk of capturing burning coal gas and piping it into a suitable geological storage facility on a massive scale, is a moronic idea that is doomed to fail at huge expense to taxpayers.

This flawed policy comes at a catastrophic opportunity cost to the future quality of life on our planet. Rudd should be asking the coal industry to put up the proof of CO2 storage with their own R&D money, or face the inevitable wind up to a clearly, unsustainable resource.

The sickening realisation for many Australians is that Rudd is a Howard clone in so many ways. Concern at Rudd's handling of climate change will motivate tens of thousands of people to join the walk against warming rallies later this year. The message to Canberra is that Rudd has blown it - and he and his government will be held to account for his arrogance. My suggestion to Federal Labor would be to dump Rudd for Gillard as soon as possible and change direction before it's too late.
Posted by Quick response, Thursday, 2 October 2008 2:40:25 PM
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Now that the boom is looking shaky Governments are no longer going to accept the soothsayers who predict doom and gloom with very debatable (certainly not scientific) evidence of global warming. Anita obviously wasn't around when we went through the 'ice age' doom and gloom predictions in the 70's. Some of the same 'scientist' no doubt kept their funding by towing the line (a lie). As the young ones would say today we should just 'chill' a bit. Their are enough real issues facing people without inventing a few more.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 2 October 2008 3:48:56 PM
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The whole argument is Hypocrisy Festa;
When Policies are set by morons who have suffered the indignity of having their intelligence removed through years of Proletariat full on frontal lobotomy’s at Universities; you can only expect to end up with a new age Idiot class of Looting witchdoctors , who's intent, and training are but Agitprop Post Hock Drivle, PhD’s in Lies and thievery –
You can say; In Fact – at least an armed robber is distinguishable and acts in an overt manor – These New Aged Proletariat Non National Socialist Armed Robbers act in a covert and in their clandestine mannerisms ; using propaganda and generational brain washing , and Rob you by Statute ,can now go about robbing you of any wealth ; as well as robbing you of your brains.
The biggest and natural CO2 spung is earth and water ; less the CO2 fused by natural means ,that then becomes CO3 ; oooo yes ; OZON;- Now whooodathunk it.

No money in my bank account for being honest ay- Post moderism is great if you are a looter.
Posted by All-, Thursday, 2 October 2008 7:03:25 PM
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Farts, doonas, bungees, fake jewelry, teenage boys' rooms, cupboards, black holes...Forget carbon, urgent metaphor sequestration required. A revealing insight into where the interests of the Youth Climate Coalition really lie. Have fun, kids.
Posted by fungochumley, Thursday, 2 October 2008 7:39:12 PM
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hopeleft - Anita is running a social club, lots of folks do that in our society without being paid, see Rotary, Lions etc.

It's good to hear you're not being paid for activism, why is that relevant - or is to prepare for the snide comment "I'm not saying that the climate denialists on this site are paid, but it just takes a few voices of dissent to put the scientific consensus into question." Some folks are just motivated by what they see as common sense, I don't need to be paid to say that your consensus is not real. If it was real, then there would be no dissent - obviously. So there is some doubt, which is healthy in science. Climate denialist - no, I'm not a climate denialist - what on earth would that be? Someone who says there is no weather? I'm a Man Made Climate Change skeptic, just as you are a Natural Climate Change Denier (or skeptic, except you're not skeptical are you - you really are in denial that there is a natural process)

Tectonic Plate movements do put a lot of life at risk, think volcanoes, or tsunamis - there was a tsunami some years ago Boxing Day 2006 that killed over 100,000 people.

I hope you don't wait around to find out. It's good for people to have a hobby, you should enjoy it - but leave the paranoia out of it, not everyone who thinks differently to you is being paid off by the fossil fuels lobby, that's verging on delusional.
Posted by rpg, Friday, 3 October 2008 5:13:33 AM
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