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Australia and Canada: what cost cultural diversity? : Comments

By Tim Murray, published 16/9/2008

Both Canada and Australia are increasing migration, but at what cost to their respective ecosystems?

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It seems that the germs of 'growthism' and 'militarism' must have lingered in the corridors of power in Canberra. The new lot soon became infected. As far as I can tell coal is growing faster and renewable energy is growing slower than in the late Howard years. I'm not sure that urban sprawl has displaced wildlife so much as created a cultural and economic desert. It creates enclaves of resentment. When the mining boom ends as it must many thousands of people will drift back to the cities, along with many who were only supposed to be here temporarily. The outback will again be deserted while the cities are bursting with underemployed water rationed people unable to afford food and rent. All because some big city mandarins thought the good times could last forever. At the very least they should explain clearly why they think we need more people and less farm land so we can argue the point.
Posted by Taswegian, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 9:20:53 AM
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An excellent article, one which should be required reading by all politicians and economists throughout the land. Our major cities are already choking to death twice a day with ever growing traffic and our water supplies are dwindling. This growth, growth, growth at whatever the cost philosophy has got to cease.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:32:36 AM
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<<An excellent article, one which should be required reading by all politicians and economists throughout the land.>>

Some people are easily pleased, VK3AUU.

<<... for Canada too could be compared to a cruise liner. The HMS Ecological Titanic still robotically stopping to pick up more passengers as it ploughs forward towards the iceberg of over-population.>>

Personally, all I felt was sea-sick.
Posted by Spikey, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 11:02:50 AM
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Australia should be reducing its population, not increasing it. The high immigration lunacy of both major parties is costing Australia and Australians far too much. The only sectors to benefit are developers, real estate carpet baggers, and big business. The rest of Australia – renters, home-buyers, the ALP’s much talked about ‘working families’, food production and the environment are all big losers.

Immigration and politicians pushing immigration are now the biggest threats to Australia.

Australians need to be made aware, if they are not already in the know, about the “sinister” lobbying, bribing and clamouring for higher immigration to boost their increasing growth coming from the building and real estate industries.

The current Australian Government, which has promised even more devastating immigration than the previous Government’s ridiculously high contribution to overpopulation, pays homage to the human-cause legend of climate change because it is ‘scientific’, but continues seeking to fill every nook and cranny of Australia with people – even though other scientist have been telling them that Australia’s population is already double its carrying capacity.

As for adding to the population by introducing ‘diversity’ and turning Australia into a zoo with a representation of every race there is, the left should be made to explain just why we should be doing this. (O’Connor). It seems that the lefties were sillier than we thought they were if: “…Labor was able to disguise a right-wing policy of relentless growth as left-wing “tolerance”.
Posted by Mr. Right, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 11:07:36 AM
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Wats ya agenda. Limited population? We would have to be the smallest populus of a nation this size. Can you explain your reasons for this type of restraint.
Posted by jason60, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 8:14:01 PM
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Jason60,

Australia has a very low population density, but that is because most of the country is essentially useless desert (apart from its value to the mining industry). See this map of Australia's population distribution

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/ABS@.NSF/00000000000000000000000000000000/fe3fa39a5bf5aa5aca256b350010b3fd!OpenDocument

Water is one limiting factor that is staring us in the face. There are serious problems with finding enough water for the existing population, apart from in the tropical north. That is why the government is buying back water rights from farmers, why there are permanent water restrictions in almost all of our cities, with white government cars cruising neighborhoods to catch old ladies watering on the wrong day, and why desalination plants are being planned for Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, and Brisbane. The energy costs of desalinating and pumping water uphill are enormous. This is apart from any concerns about even less water in the future due to climate change.

There is no evidence that massive population growth is of any benefit to the average person. The Europeans are doing just fine without it. Of the top 10 countries on the World Economic Forum Competitiveness Index (which don't include Australia), all but the US and Singapore (a city state) have either no population growth or population growth rates that are less than half of ours.
Posted by Divergence, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 2:48:36 PM
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