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The American Primaries: the US Presidential race so far : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 22/1/2008

In the US Presidential race we can be sure about one thing: all candidates will be tooting the message of change.

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The author is quite wrong in claiming that Edwards is the only Democrat talking about poverty to the electorate during this campaign. Obama has been campaigning on that very point since taking office in the Senate during his first term, and has continued with this theme which may explain his popularity in Iowa and New Hamshire with the voters.

His position on poverty and offers a real chance for change in the States which is why Clinton is so worried about him and why her minders have started this hate campaign against him.

Simply, Obama represents a new deal in politics which give hope to a new generation of Americans wanting change and is his own man whilst Clintion runs with the old establishment on Capitol Hill who are no different to the Republicans who have been running America for the last eight years.

I am hoping for the sake of the free world that Obama wins the Democratic presidential nomination and offers the vice President job to Bill Richardson. He may be inexperienced but he is smart as opposed to Clinton taking advice from only Bill.
Posted by Yindin, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:53:42 AM
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Yindin, you are 100% correct. I agree that Obama is the one who can effectively bring about change in America. He not only is brilliant and an eloquent speaker but he has demonstrated the vision so badly needed at this time to start America back to the road of international respect.
Posted by Joe in the U.S., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 6:51:48 PM
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the only thing that will bring america to international respect is sending the bush cabinet to the icc in chains.

obama is aiming to be bill clinton, plus a democrat congress. if he gets it, likely, he can prune the problems assailing the usa. but he can't change the course of history, and americans have been living on credit for many years. the bills will come due soon, accelerated by resource exhaution and climate change.

the problem is beginning to look more likely to be hillary's. both are just politicians, but hilly has better organization, works harder, and has slick willy for consigliere. she will have more delegates than obama, but maybe edwards will have enough to swing the choice. he's probably the best candidate, but middle aged white men have no chance.

the empire will roll on regardless, the munitions business is too important to be curtailed, peace will not break out no matter who gets the purple.

difficult to believe the republican candidate matters, but who would have thought dubya would get in? twice! leadership selection in the usa is really no more sensible than here, and the consequences vastly more disastrous.
Posted by DEMOS, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 7:29:26 PM
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Anyone read the transcript of the South Carolina Democratic 'debate'?

Americans will be totally turned off by the attack polictics on display by both Obama and Hillary. That debate will be used by any Repubican Presidential candidate to highlight the dramatic display of self-centeredness of both Hillary and Obama. Such excluded many former presidential candidates and the same will occur again. Don't people learn from the lessons of history?

Americans despise such attrocious antics. Always have always will.
Yep and Edwards even though decent will run third to the media promoted 'blackman' or 'woman' for president. Americans will see through that sort of charade.

I think many Democrats who would probably would have voted now simply won't vote.

Many of the commentators I've seen in Australia, simply don't understand that concept because they relate US politics to Aussie ways. Americans, if the party of their choice throws up a candidate they don't like, have a third choice unavailable to Australians... They don't have to vote or allocate a preference.

I wish Australian commentators could acknowledge and try to understand that aspect.

In Obama's and Hillary's case every commentator, I've seen, in Australia assumes the 'blacks' will vote for either of them. Simply if Obama is the selected Democrat nomination it is likely 'blacks' who prefered Hillary simply will opt not to vote in the Federal election. The same sort of attitude prevails on the Republican side.

That's why the US elections can return a President Bush when all the pundits are expecting a Gore or a Kerry. The primaries popular choice of the Republicans was more popular with all Republicans than the primaries popular choice of the Democrats was with all Democrats. That's why there was the hue and cry about alledged 'cheating'. People paid too much attention to the campaign for nomination and the voting figures from them. The Democrats in those primaries who voted for Gore's or Kerry's opponents didn't necessarily go on to vote for Gore or Kerry.

That's why US elections are so interesting and targeted ... hey?
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 8:12:32 PM
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oops

A little further.

The primaries are not simply about choosing the most popular candidate. They are often about picking the candidate who will attract the most support, not from the general population, but the most from the supporters of the respective parties. It's often about who turns off less of a particular parties supporters.

On that basis given the display in South Carolina and the results from the previous caucases neither Hillary nor Obama can go on to win the main contest.
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 8:19:20 PM
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