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A spotlight on the climate crusaders : Comments

By Ben-Peter Terpstra, published 3/12/2007

As global warming apparently takes hold, consumer habits have changed little, as we pay lip service to 'green spirituality'.

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Good on Ben. The people he talks about need to be exposed for their posturing and, often, downright lying. If they are not getting 'fame' out of it, they are making money.

What we all have to do is ignore them and wait for the next climate change to fix this one.

Nature cannot be controlled by talk or the money that talk is going to cost us, as energy producers and charletans increase their wealth without having any impact at all on a natural occurrence.
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 3 December 2007 9:21:04 AM
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Brilliant article only any thinking person would come up with the same conclusions.
Posted by runner, Monday, 3 December 2007 11:05:22 AM
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Now everyone listen to runner as he/she is the smartest person in the world, after all he/she is able to decide what is right and wrong. Perhaps between runner and Ben we should them to task of fixing all the worlds ills. I sure these guys would come up with some excellent ideas and thinking person can see that.

Ben, Ben Ben how dumb do you think people are. the important information about climate change come from scientist not "the media" I'll let you into a little secret...reporters misreport science news all the time. Even ones like New Scientist, the best place to look is in the science journals, sure there have been papers floating the idea of impending ice agers but the don’t get much support from their peers. Just because a news paper might run the story doesn’t make it main stream science. GB however is all together different, this has build it over thirty years with more and more evidence. But the main point is get over yourself it is not going to do Man any long term harm to go Green, however it may do us a lot of harm if we do not.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 3 December 2007 1:19:55 PM
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Terpstra, you are not a lateral thinker and we must continue to endure the same tired reiterations in all your articles.

But hey Ben, look around you. Do some thorough research rather than act as someone's whipping boy.

Give us your hypothesis on why mass extinctions of various species are occurring and then at least return with an educated guess.

Do not lose total credibility and state that man is blameless for the mass extinction of those species who are succumbing to our reckless indifference to the laws of nature.

These species are the "canaries in the coal mines" and you are the ostrich with his head in the sand.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:BTx7EF9lcoQJ:home.att.net/~thehessians/birds.html+dead+birds+western+australian+coastline+discovered+2007&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=au&lr=lang_en
Posted by dickie, Monday, 3 December 2007 4:38:19 PM
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According to ABC News Radio this morning, Australia will spend $1.5 billion, annually, helping backward countries with climate change.

As the money comes from us- governments have none of their own - get out your calculators and whack that up among the 21 million of us, then add on the predicted rises in our own energy and water costs.

Still like what that nice Mr.Rudd and the eco-nuts who think they can inflence nature want to do? Remember,the costs are per annum, not one off.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 7:56:40 AM
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Leigh, $71 per person per annum doesn't seem like that big a deal to me, with or without the extra energy and water costs. I guess it's just me, but helping poorer countries in developing energy efficiency etc seems not too bad for $71.

I guess we will have to wait and see where that money is actually going.
Posted by Bugsy, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:35:19 AM
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People like Prof. Bob Carter have been pointing out that there has been no more warming since 1998. But this is a view formed by the offical global data sets that have not been adjusted for the cooling impact of random events like the Mount Pinatubo eruption in 1991.

As Ian Mott has pointed out in the commentary at http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/002586.html#comments
it is generally accepted that this massive eruption emitted so much sulfur that it cooled the planet by 0.5C over a few years. And some of the climate mafia have used this information to imply that the underlying rate of temperature increase was much greater than the official numbers indicate. And in part, that is true, but wait, there is more.

For when we add 0.2C to the second half of 1991, 0.4C to 1992, 0.3C to 1993, 0.2C to 1994 and 0.1C to 1995 it becomes clear that the global temperature took a short spike from 1990 to 1992 and has been in a plateau ever since. Essentially, 1992 would have been just as warm as the 1998 El nino year. And yes, that is 15 years in which there is zero evidence of global temperature change.

Over that 15 years the atmospheric CO2 reading from Mauna Loa increased by 27 ppm or a massive 141Gt of extra CO2 (280 years worth of Australian emissions) for no warming whatsoever.

Examples of this sort of sudden jump in temperature followed by a plateau are found throughout the temperature record. And as the latest reports point to a solid La Nina event in place during 2008, we can state with a high degree of certainty that there will be no evidence of any warming, let alone accelerated warming, for 16 years.

But you won't hear a word of this at the Bali wankfest, oh no, no, no.
Posted by Perseus, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 12:10:06 PM
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Bugsy,

Get some new batteries in your calculator. It's not $71, it's $71,428.51 cents rounded out
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 12:58:45 PM
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Leigh, the modern usage (unfortunately American) is that a billion is 1,000 million.

1,500 million divided by 21 million equals what?

OMFG! They are spending more than the average wage per person on climate change overseas! NOT!
Posted by Bugsy, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 1:27:33 PM
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