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Capital punishment still has majority support in Australia : Comments

By Sinclair Davidson and Tim Fry, published 16/10/2007

It is not unreasonable for the Australian government to oppose the execution of Australians overseas while opposing the death penalty in Australia.

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Redneck, in the 'privileged whites' thread we both agreed that importing those with significantly different cultural values risked damaging Australia's social cohesion and cultural identity.
Now I see you are in favour of the death penalty.
Interesting, because I see opposition to the death penalty as a basic Australian value (as enshrined in Australian law), and hence *your* personal values are damaging to Australia's social cohesion and cultural identity.
Posted by dnicholson, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:51:51 AM
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I can see that you were never in the Army, Phanto.

Armies everywhere hardly give much respect to "Thou shalt not kill" philosophies". Not only do armies say "Thou shalt kill", but also "Great woe shall bedide thee if thou dost not."
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:22:50 PM
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Even armies don't kill for the sake of it. If an enemy surrenders, they are not simply killed.

As Carl von Clausewitz pointed out war is politics, deaths in war are not the same as either capital punishment or murder, except when committed without a military aim to advance the political cause.

Thankfully we have moved beyond the ideas of the Mongols, and any other number of pre 1500 warrior groups, that is, that any armed resistance will result in the death of all men, women and children belonging to the resisting group. It was a great way to terrorise and ensure surrender, but not so 'civilised' as we think of ourselves today.

Capital punishment cannot be equated with killing by armed forces, except where those armed forces are committing war crimes.
Posted by Hamlet, Sunday, 21 October 2007 4:01:56 PM
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As I see it this line sums one of the best reasons for capital pubishment .
"As a punishment it does not rehabilitate offenders, but it does prevent recidivism." especially when it come to self confessed terrorists like the Bali bombers.

But I have a question for all of the bleeding hearts, if you don't want the scumbags killed how about we lobotomise them instead?
Cheers Comrades
Posted by Iain, Sunday, 21 October 2007 5:36:59 PM
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Rehabilitation isn't being so much denied but rather the offender has given up thier life because of the enormity of their capital crime which can be met with justice by capital punishment.
Mercy is shown to the offender by our prayers which is our duty to do in charity if we live in Christ.
Also, offenders have an opportunity to confess their sin to a priest in Confession if Catholic or if not a Catholic to at least make a perfect act of contrition by praying to God and calling on his Divine Mercy from the merits of the Cross of Calvary to take away his sins.
The reparation for the crime is usually made up for through the mental torment leading up to the execution.
In Christ there is both justice and mercy; and mercy is the end result for all who seek it no matter how evil.
The only 'unforgiveable sin' is the sin against the Holy Spirit which is final impenitence, that is, to be on your death bed or go to your death without any preparation and not asking for forgiveness.
The death penalty is only the condemnation in this world but need not go further for those who confess while there is time.
Posted by Webby, Sunday, 21 October 2007 9:50:55 PM
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RE Col Rouge
All drug dealers should be executed now.
As in every member of our governments that allow a ,scientifically proven, manufacture ,distribution and only now a limited advetising ,of a drug that is proven to be addictive,proven to kill and has no health benefit. Yes the good old tobacco . The facts are their of them taking money from the dealers,protecting them and allowing them to deal in death with total immunity from prosecution and the death penalty. So i will be there on the day to see you kill them one after another for dealing in the drugs and ,taking their 50 percent cut,killing kids and keeping a law on the books to allow full immunity from all this death.
And yes i do smoke.
Posted by insignificant, Monday, 22 October 2007 12:42:18 AM
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