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Global warming zealots are stifling scientific debate : Comments

By Ian Plimer, published 26/7/2007

Science is apolitical, and when it has submitted to political pressure in the past, it has been at great human cost.

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Global warming? Climate change?


Recent research by Henrik Svensmark and his group at the Danish National
Space Center points to the real cause of the recent warming trend. In a
series of experiments on the formation of clouds, these scientists have
shown that fluctuations in the Sun's output cause the observed changes in the
Earth's temperature.

In the past, scientists believed the fluctuations in the Sun's output were
too small to cause the observed amount of temperature change, hence the need
to look for other causes like carbon dioxide. However, these new
experiments show that fluctuations in the Sun's output are in fact large
enough, so there is no longer a need to resort to carbon dioxide as the
cause of the recent warming trend.

The discovery of the real cause of the recent increase in the Earth's
temperature is indeed a convenient truth. It means humans are not to blame
for the increase. It also means there is absolutely nothing we can, much
less do, to correct the situation.

Thomas Laprade
480 Rupert St.
Thunder Bay, Ont.

Canada

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http://www.aip.org/history/climate/solar.htm

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Posted by snowbird, Thursday, 26 July 2007 4:22:57 PM
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You've clearly done your homework snowbird. Did you include a link to RealClimate's article on cosmic rays? Aussies may note our very own Senator Nick Minchin is a cosmic ray enthusiast and has written an official memo to that effect. Which of course makes it OK to be part of the Coal-ition government.

The next step is to get rid of all those pesky greenhouses used by farmers to ripen tomatoes. Just zap the buggers with cosmic rays.
Posted by Taswegian, Thursday, 26 July 2007 4:37:11 PM
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Thanks, Chris and Kieren, helps to give the old boy a lift. Gets lonely at times, though I have the wife's own little dog to talk to. The family has talked me into Foxtel. Still don't like foxy Murdoch, but will say his contiuous Country Music session is good. Reminds me when I used to try and sing - When it's Springtime in the Rockies - chasing cattle during the Great Depression. Now I try to sing How much is that dog in the window? to Amber the dog.

Was supposed to previously sit for a scholarship early in the Depression, but with the old man's persuasion sort of chose to work on the property. Don't really regret it though, looking back, though life in the army later probably helped to liven things up.

Cheers - BB
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 26 July 2007 4:37:13 PM
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Ah, dear old ian pilmer, you do make me laugh.
Next thing you'll be telling us about the big hippy-scientific conspiracy to have us all living in caves is funded by those evil global-mega-environmental groups, and that the do-gooder corporate think-tanks are only trying to warn us and save the consumerist utopia!

I shudder to think how many people buy this line of irrational, motive-less argument as an excuse to do nothing.
Posted by julatron, Thursday, 26 July 2007 4:48:02 PM
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Our real problem is that "Global Warming" caused by CO2 is now the child of the far left who want to use it to destroy the Capitalist's System and impose their new world order.This is why they are so vehmently protective of their theory presented as fact.Anyone who deviates from their view is a heretic who must be shouted down.In the old days this mentality would have Plimer stoned to death for blasphamy.

Yes the Global Warming religion is stifling rational debate about the causes and possible consequences.We are not even sure if this is just a natural cycle.So let the real rational debate begin.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 26 July 2007 6:32:43 PM
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"The best way to understand climate is to critically and sceptically evaluate the evidence presented to us over a very long period of time by the heavens and the Earth beneath our feet."

Very true Ian, most scientists do this by peer review in scientific journals, conferences, workshops and the like.

You may not like what your peers in the scientific community have said Ian, but resorting to "dumbing down" (quoted) in the media, on obscure blog spots, and forums like this reeks of "sour grapes".

You have a contribution to make, so please GET OVER IT and GET ON WITH IT.

Taswegian, you're not the only one who has noticed.
Do the numbers, OLO slams the so called "warmers". Hey ed, how about a more balanced view, a claim taken from the "deniers" camp. OLO is turning into a "deniers" self-admiration society.
Posted by davsab, Thursday, 26 July 2007 6:53:19 PM
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