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Resisting the stereotype of 'Muslim-Australian' : Comments

By Liza Hopkins, published 24/7/2007

Is there such a thing as an Australian Muslim?

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"Subordinate, Non-Stereotypical" Turkish-Muslim Alert:

"Fritz Gelowicz, 28, is in police custody, charged with leading a plot that, had it succeeded, could have surpassed the London bombings in its toll. That he is German and a youthful convert to Islam has only made it harder for his countrymen to grasp the accusation against him ... Fritz Gelowicz found Islam as a teenager. Investigators say a German friend of Turkish descent named Tolga Durbin introduced Gelowicz to a radical form of Islam." 8/9/07
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/from-fritz-to-adbullah-conversion-shocks-germans/2007/09/07/1188783495046.html

"BERLIN - Three militants from an Islamic group linked to al-Qaida were planning "imminent" bomb attacks against Americans in Germany when an elite anti-terrorist unit raided their small-town hideout after months of intense surveillance, officials said Wednesday.

The men — two German converts to Islam and a Turkish citizen who prosecutors said shared a "profound hatred of U.S. citizens" — allegedly obtained military-style detonators and enough chemicals to make bombs more powerful than those that killed 191 commuters in Madrid in 2004 and 52 in London in 2005." 5/9/07
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070905/ap_on_re_eu/germany_terror

Or how about this guy: he busted the stereotype for 34 years as a Turkish immigrant in Germany. And then, please explain, what went wrong Dr Liza? Dear God, his daughter fell for a German, so "let's kill him":

"Turkish-born Muharrem E. spent 34 years living the life of a respectable German in Munich. He was employed, raised his children and owned a condominium. Then his daughter fell in love with a German. The Turkish family kidnapped the boy, turning their story into a lesson about the limits of integration." 23/8/07
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,501646,00.html

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Posted by online_east, Monday, 10 September 2007 1:53:49 AM
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Turkish connection in foiled plot unsettles Germans

"FRANKFURT: As Germans struggle to make sense of the terrorist plot foiled this week, they are learning that their good Muslims - the large Turkish immigrant population here - may not all be so good.

One of the three militants arrested Tuesday and accused of planning major bomb attacks against American and German targets is a Turkish man who lives in Germany, and security officials said Friday that three, and possibly more, of the suspects still being sought are of Turkish origin.

The Turkish dimension of the plot has shaken Germans, who have long taken comfort in the belief that their Muslim population, predominantly Turkish, was less prone to terrorism, or even radical Islamic ideas, than Muslim minorities in Britain, France and other European countries ...

There are, in fact, 2.7 million people of Turkish descent in Germany ...

The trouble is that established Turkish groups - which have close links to the Turkish state and were founded in the early years of immigration - are not attractive to third- and fourth-generation immigrants." 7/9/07

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/07/business/turks.php

I can hear Dr Raphael Israeli's words ringing clearly: when the Muslim population gets to 10%, you have problems. So whilst most Aussie Muslim Turks may be harmless now, by 3rd of 4th generation Dr Liza's myopic argument goes out the window.

Wake up Australia. In the long-term a growing Muslim population is dangerous, even of Turkish origin.
Posted by online_east, Monday, 10 September 2007 2:08:10 AM
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online_east

Irish terrorists have been known to strike fear into the hearts of Englanders (often with financial backing from their Irish brethren in the USA). And there are huge and growing numbers of people of Irish descent in Australia.

On your argument, while these Irish-Australians may be harmless now, we should be fearful of them some time in the future. A world-wide Catholic conspiracy perhaps?

As you say: Wake up Australia.
Posted by FrankGol, Monday, 10 September 2007 10:20:39 AM
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