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Conspiracy theories on the Internet and on the loose : Comments

By Steve Clarke, published 7/6/2007

The truth may be out there, but telling us what it isn’t is no substitute for telling us what it is.

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True historical accounts such as the slaughter from the air of five thousand Iraqis who began to protest against the British occupation of Iraq after WW1, can now be regarded as either conspiracy theory or Marxian twisting of history.

Further, Iran, who has never attacked another country for hundreds of years, has since WW2 been occupied by the US in the 1950s with the implanting of the Shah, was able to throw out such occupation - but with the US standing by was attacked by Iraq in 1981, and after eight years with resultant shocking casualties, was still able to throw off the invaders.

Even among many of our Onliners, much of the above is regarded as un-needed OLD PAP similar to the way most Western history contained in recommended study volumes is treated.

Similar to Mr Howard's projected plan to lower the importance of the Schools of Humanities, similar to his discardance of the importance of much of our Aboriginal history, replacing it with persistent replays of the deeds of us white Australians as with Gallipoli. So ultra-conservative, in fact, sounds like Shades of the Nazi Party.
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:16:53 AM
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The intelligent maturity of almost all the posts on this forum so far – something the original essay lacks – belies any prejudice that those who doubt the official 911 story are gullible, paranoid whackos.

It’s not gullibility or paranoia for the public to want a more comprehensive, believable explanation of what really happened on 911 than what they have received to date.

According to what I’ve read, estimates of the official amount spent on the 911 investigation vary between about $20 million and $50 million. Yet the investigation that led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton over his affair with Monica Lewinsky cost over $100 million before it even got to court.

Considering the power of the United States, the massive loss of life, and the worldwide catastrophic consequences of 911, the people of the entire world – not just the United States – deserve a much more extensive and open presentation of all the evidence at hand.

Hiding this evidence from the public – in the so-called interests of national security – not only fuels conspiracy theories, it also pours contempt on the entire Western legal process.
Posted by MLK, Friday, 8 June 2007 7:46:06 AM
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Conspiracy: A combination of men for an evil purpose; as agreement, between two or more persons, to commit a crime in concert, as treason; a plot.

http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.sh?WORD=conspiracy

Zogby Poll: Over 70 Million American Adults Support New 9/11 Investigation
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=11269

BUT THE 9/11 COMMISSION SHOWED THAT SEPTEMBER 11TH WAS A REAL TERRORIST ATTACK, RIGHT?
http://911proof.com/6.html

Tracking the 19 Hijackers
What are they up to now?
At least 9 of them survived 9/11
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

Complete 911 Timeline
http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/project.jsp?project=911_project

250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns.html

The Fake 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html

9/11 Videos: THE CONTROLLED COLLAPSE OF WTC 7
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html

What Was In Building 7?
http://wtc7.net/background.html

Online Video: Banned Fox News Video: 9/11 The Israeli Connection
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v552406rYaXEFgw

Slip of the tongue? Rumsfeld admits that "Flight 93" was shot down
VIDEO Footage and transcripts
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5626

Missing Gold
A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to have Disappeared
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html#ref4

The 1975 World Trade Center Fire
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_1975_fire.html

Further information can be found here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wrhmt/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=9%2F11&x=30&y=19
Posted by BrokenSword, Friday, 8 June 2007 4:16:14 PM
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I am often called a conspiracy theorist.

I have made formal allegations against the NSW Department of Education as there is a conspiracy against gifted children in Education and a conspiracy to cover up formal allegations of systematic bias, victimisation, vilification, bullying, fraud, corruption, misconduct, discrimination, manipulation of test scores/documents and a conspiracy to cover up - just to name few.

My experiences, and the documents we have show, that what the system does is that those responsible are permitted to handle complaints about themselves and they present submissions to different Ministers detailing the tale that they want to present together with prepared documents and a draft response. The draft response is accepted on face value by the Ministers/bureaucrats and noted as fact. That response then gets sent off to the next person you complain to and presented as evidence that there is no truth in your complaint. The system presents it like all these people investigated the evidence/matter and came to the same conclusion, when in fact they only looked at the lies told by those you accuse and signed the draft responses prepared by those you allege are responsible and moved it on.

The matter is then closed and correspondence filed without acknowledgement. If you complain you are deemed vexatious and vilified.

Jolanda – Education – Keeping them Honest
http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/
Posted by Jolanda, Friday, 8 June 2007 4:43:21 PM
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Here's a pretty good piece (I think) that illustrates the dilemma:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17850.htm

Extract: "War without cause is murder, not war."

Extrapolating that to our own government's actions and activities, what are WE going to do about cleaning up this mess? I think we are all culpable, because a critical mass of us swallowed the government's conspiracy theory too easily. So we are obliged to do something concrete about this great crime, not only for the (immediate) sake of the Iraqis, but also for the sake of our grandkids the world over.

Never again! (where have I heard that before?)

What about The Coconut, Ol' Fishnets, Gabby Cadaver, The Monk and Ol' Bat Ears? (nicknames used here for purely vexatious reasons). They sneaked our armed forces to war during parliamentary recess and made hostages out of us and them - that's true.

And let's not forget Hill, who must have been in it up to his neck. Then there's Senator Awful, who jammed his boot on the ABC's neck at the first sign of deviation from the official conspiracy theory. Perhaps these characters feel a little more insulated on the other side of the planet.

Any time soon, we will have to have a little "truth and reconciliation" session with these blokes. No maybes - it will HAVE to be. What does the future hold for them? Surely the choice is between genteel retirement in a gated estate, or a trip to the gulag via The Hague.

Questions: What might they do to stay in power, with so much to lose? If they can't hold on to power, will Little Kev let them off the hook, and if so, why?

If we keep our wits sharpened in the run-up to the election, we just might get a clue as to who has been running this country for the past decade or three.
Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Saturday, 9 June 2007 10:34:28 AM
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Here's a great website that uncovers a conspiracy by unionists to destroy Australia's economy and take us back to the dark ages:

www.liberal.org.au

Another website has also fearlessly exposed this nefarious plot:

www.theaustralian.com.au

Despite only having the resources of a multi-billion dollar global media empire with which to defend Australia against the wealthy and powerful forces of working men and women, this brave cadre of noble journalists refuse to be intimidated.

Let us pause and give thanks that these intrepid souls will never be silenced.
Posted by Mercurius, Saturday, 9 June 2007 6:22:33 PM
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