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Climate change denial : Comments

By Clive Hamilton, published 3/5/2007

Most Australians are no longer in a state of denial: they are facing up to the truth about global warming.

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I apologise for not putting this link in the main body of the article, but I was bumping up against the word limit. Here is some interesting reading:
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg19125691.100-global-warming-will-the-sun-come-to-our-rescue.html
Posted by Reynard, Thursday, 3 May 2007 11:55:49 AM
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the problem with the science used to put fear into so many peoples hearts and money into so many pockets is that it not only sloppy but deceitful. In blaming the Howard Government Clive writes 'A decade has been lost, and we will pay dearly for it;' Of course we should be thankful that the Hawke Government did not act on the 'global cooling crisis' predicted by the same think thanks back in the 80's. It makes for a very good laugh!
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 May 2007 11:58:46 AM
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It is disturbing to see how global warming deniers dismiss the most robust and vigorously reviewed scientific evidence of human induced climate change. All world governments are taking action (including the US and our own).

The legitimate sceptics that are scientists total about 2% of the scientific community. I hope they’re right and get a Nobel Prize one day, but the overwhelming science is telling us otherwise.

If 98% of specialists tell you that you have a terminal (but treatable) cancer and you have a certain amount of time to operate, are you going to seek yet another opinion, (or deny or pretend there is not a problem)?

At some point you are going to have to operate, or you die.

I doubt very much the deniers in this forum have read the published scientific papers on climate change; they have probably not got the attention span to do so or they would be incapable of understanding the science in the first place.

To the deniers here (not the people who just don’t know), why don’t you publish your theories. If your pronouncements are reviewed by experts and you come up with 98% acceptance, well then everyone should take note.

The problem, you can’t or you won’t. All you want to do is engender doubt in the minds of the masses from your own ideological perspective, without regards to truth.

As a reminder, we have never faced such a serious problem on such a large scale. The social, financial and environmental effects of climate change are becoming more evident everyday. However, there is hope and we do have a window of opportunity.

We have the advantage of:

Information technology to discuss and resolve issues.
Scientific and engineering knowledge to an extent never before known.
Growing understanding of how interdependent we all are.

We need to leverage these advantages. All we really need is the will to exercise.
Posted by davsab, Thursday, 3 May 2007 1:07:38 PM
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By selecting particular 'scientific' articles and consulting certain 'experts' you can justify just about any conclusion on climate change you like. It's amusing that some contributors to this forum see themselves as the renegade climate change deniers, holding firm against the tide of public opinion. The rest of us are somehow dismissed as both blind and gullible as we eagerly latch on to the speculative rants of doomsdayers like the author. They then accuse this wealth of scientists, analysts and commentators of pushing their own hidden agendas like selling a book or attracting government funding. Well congratulations on seeing through the BS and being smarter than everyone else fellas.

Seriously though, I think most people would at least agree that humans are 'more likely than not' the cause of modern climate change. The onus is now on those in the 'denier' camp to comprehensively disprove this. If they can't then they should shut up! Considering the possible ramifications of climate change, thwarting and delaying efforts to reduce CO2 emmissions is potentially unconscionable, immoral and even criminal.
Posted by Tak, Thursday, 3 May 2007 1:13:06 PM
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Yeah we are aware of global warming now.

Its just a shame that what we do has NO BEARING on the future of the world. We are an insignificant player by global standards that even if we all have a real go at changing our lifestyles, those emerging in the 3rd world or in developing countries will increase thier output during the same time.

What a joke, its pathetic that Australians feel we are that important and can change the world.

Guess what, we cant. So it does not matter.
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 3 May 2007 1:25:40 PM
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About time all you smart arses, the greenies have been at you for years about it, as have the Demo's.

Not that the true avante-guard still has a chance, because we have the right-wingers stealing the agenda, creating their own Kyoto.

Remember it was the Nazis who also presented their case like this, Americans even voting not to help Britain in dire time of need.

Now with your Nazi-like sure-fire minds, you back America whether right or wrong, because the US has the nuclear artillery to call the global tune if needed - the rest of our public thinking staying more on booze and sport and staying dumbly happy, because we've got the likes of Georgie Boy Dubya, and his best bosom buddy Johnnie Howard to
help him see the light.

Trouble is there is now only an Anglipholic twosome making a mess in Iraq as well as our future, with Mr Blair having second thoughts, which he should have had long ago as an Oxford graduate.

Come on you academics, what about more support? Getting called left-wing fruitcakes by this OlO mob, should be only building up more verbal charge for you.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 3 May 2007 1:40:00 PM
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