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Misreported, misconstrued, mistranslated, misunderstood : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 23/2/2007

One can't help but to compare the barrage of abuse faced by the Sheik Taj Al-Din Hilali (perhaps deservedly) with the indifference to Professor Raphael Israeli's offensive remarks.

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"I would suggest to you that the most "unholy alliance" at present is between those elements of the left who are marching arm in arm with the most rank type of Islamists (the homophobes, the misogynists, the anti-communists) merely because the Islamist is anti-American."

Well, I guess the lefties are merely following the example of the Right, who were quite happy to arm and train Islamist militias to fight a proxy war against communism. Let's face it. That dude in the cave's real name is Usama bin Reagan.
Posted by Irfan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 1:24:48 AM
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numbat tries to prove the existence of a deep dark evil Muslim conspiracy similar to the one his ideological forebears in England and Germany (including Winston Churchill) believed existed among those nasty "Hebrew money lenders". And his evidence?

2 books published in Iran

Millions of volumes on Islamic jurisprudence, art, literature, music and spirituality have been written over 14 centuries. numbat chooses to ignore the words of Rumi, Chishti, Ibn Rushd, Ibn Sina, al-Ghazali, Farid Esack, Hamza Yusuf, Kaled Abou el-Fadl etc etc. Instead, he chooses to rely on 2 books published in Iran.

Way to go, numbat. I'll follow your example and judge 3 millenia of Western civilisation using John Pasquerelli's bio of Pauline Hanson and her own autobiography. Then I'll conclude that our Western values are all about sleeping with Queensland fish 'n' chip shop owners.
Posted by Irfan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 1:33:28 AM
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You are right Irfan, it is pretty sad when those on the left (Ken Livingstone, George Galloway, and the drongos at Islamophobia Watch to name just a few) are making the same sort of mistakes as their right-wing mirrors did a decade or two ago.

The most stupid thing about the left is that you would have thought that they had learnt their lesson from the experience of the Iranian revolution in 1979. Here's a brief description of how that so-called revolution soon came to attack the left:
"On August 8, 1979, the revolutionary prosecutor banned the leading left-wing newspaper, Ayandegan. Five days later hezbollahis broke up a Tehran rally called by the National Democratic Front, a newly organized left-of-center political movement, to protest the Ayandegan closing. The Revolutionary Council then proscribed the front itself and issued a warrant for the arrest of its leader. Hezbollahis also attacked the headquarters of the Fadayan organization and forced the Mojahedin to evacuate their headquarters. On August 20, forty-one opposition papers were proscribed. On September 8, the two largest newspaper chains in the country, Kayhan and Ettelaat, were expropriated and transferred to the Foundation for the Disinherited". (http://www.iranchamber.com/history/islamic_revolution/revolution_and_iran_after1979_1.php)

As for 'Osama bin Reagan', while he may have been given oxygen by the USA in the 1980s, the annoying fact for you is that his DNA is firmly rooted in the Koran.
Posted by Savage Pencil, Thursday, 22 March 2007 8:08:38 AM
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irfan: On the WND website this morning I saw a photo of a palestinian toddler dressed as a martyr and there were dire warnings to Israel that a new wave of terrorism was to begin soon. Using six year old innocent female children? - well they are palestinian terrorists and devout pagan death-loving moslems eh?
Then in Baghdad where devout pagan moslems are blowing up other devout pagan moslems who are attending their mosque or shopping for food. A car was allowed through a checkpoint because there were two children in the back seat. This car went to the market where after strategically parking the car the two peace-loving devout pagan moslems ran away and when a safe distance away they detonated the bomb killing bystanders and of course the two innocent kids. Now if these innocent kids were family of the bombers it would be an animal act but they were probably just kidnapped no-bodies or even perhaps orphans - who knows? But the local religious clown or leader will designate these kids as martyrs and all is fine eh irfan. I say again islam is a very sick death loving pagan religion and I just wonder when these despicable craven murderous acts will occur in Oz - can you give us a time frame irfan? Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 1:50:10 PM
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Pagans as were the origional Goths were amongst the first peoples to be ethnically cleansed by monotheists. Paganism held more universal and higher values than the cults of Islam or Christianity. One of the most dire evils was the Christian extermination of paganism in Europe and western Asia and the Muslim extermination of paganism in North Africa. Only after pagans were all but extinct did the fury and psychopathy of monotheists turn on each other. It is odd that the word Pagan here is used a slur to diminish certian Moslems when both Moslems and Christians should lower their head in the most significant shame as what they have both done to pagans makes Hitlers treatment of the Jews look like a Sunday Picnic as Jews survive in large numbers today. The memory of paganism can only prove that the motivations of both Islam and Christianity are pure forms of evil at best and to use the word Pagan demonstrates the malicious nature of both darkage cults is well and truley with us today.
Posted by West, Thursday, 22 March 2007 2:11:58 PM
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West: Pagans are those misfits who worship false gods as I understand it. Those who worshipped baal or moloch were pagans and death-loving moslems are pagan as they worship an arabian tribal god hubal the moon god of mecca who had three daughters. Have a deco at their flag and you will see a crescent moon, strange but true the Christ is called at times the Sun. Moon for the dark - like their religion - night and the Sun for the bright day. Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 2:31:25 PM
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