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Tony Abbott needs to learn about his religion : Comments

By Justin Whelan, published 9/2/2007

Tony Abbott decides he is qualified to make judgments about what churches can and cannot criticise on the basis of faith.

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Tony Abbott said, “There is not a single, authoritative Christian position on the Iraq War"

Christians believe Christ said, 'Resist not the evil man. If he strikes you on the left cheek turn the right cheek to him so that he may strike that also...etc'

That seems like a single, authoritative Christian position on all wars to me.
Posted by Rob513264, Monday, 12 February 2007 3:03:07 AM
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Rob513264,

Christ apparently did say that but He also allowed, even encouraged his Apostles to be armed.
Were He on Earth today would they be commanded to have Israeli 'Desert Eagle' pistols or the old reliable Colt 1911 model?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 12 February 2007 8:29:55 AM
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Putting Tony Abbott in charge of Health, is like putting Dracula in charge of the blood bank....a clear conflict of interests.
Does he have Geoge Pell on speed-dial?
Posted by martial470, Monday, 12 February 2007 9:14:31 PM
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There may not be a 'single christian position' on the Iraq war - but Christ himself was pretty definite about not taking up arms. This is the point of the whole story - a man who gave his life without retaliation. The Jews were given a choice between a zealot insurgent and Christ. They chose the zealot and after 2 millenia of Christianity, Christians are still cheerleading and prefering violence - do any of them ever read?
Posted by K£vin, Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:13:20 AM
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It seems many christians seem unable to understand the concept of non-violence preached by jesus, let alone the source of the new testament and instead get caught up following the ridiculous diatribes of the torah.
you dont need religion to have a social conscience, and would be better off making decisions without referring to voices in your head for guidance. that should leave you with a relaxing stay in a mental hospital.

freedom is the seperation between church and state. keep religion out of politics.
Posted by julatron, Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:34:47 AM
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Tony Abbott, serial "has been", he "has been" a candidate for the priesthood, the Minister for Workplace Relations; and hopefully soon the ex Minister for Health.

A couple Tony...
"If church men spent more time" - women also form a large part of the Church (they are also a large part of the vulnerable and the low paid in our society, and they vote)

"encouraging virtue in people and less time demanding virtue from governments" - 1. the government we are led to believe, are people; 2. we should not have to "demand" virtue from our governments - it is your job - guess what, we, can sack you with no access to unfair dismissal, though you are still entitled to your "redundancy pay" which Superman couldn't jump over - maybe you can think about putting some of that back into society.

"society would be better off" - or is it government that's better off without a collective challenges to your misuse of power.

As a member of the Catholic Church it is evident you haven't spent much time studying the teachings on the common good, the protection of the vulnerable and support for families - something sadly missing in your NoChoices legislation. In fact many of those "two overcoat" people gladly give so others may receive. Many of them giving wholeheartedly to your demise.

Not proclaiming your Catholicity so loud and clear these days - gee Tony, what's happened?

Good news on jobs and wages? Where are the statistics on AWAs published? You mistakenly claim a correlation between the two.

The "religious" you attack are actually not dealing in politics, as called by their vocation, they deliver the message of Jesus to the world. And guess what? WE, THE VOTERS ARE LISTENING

Tony, I encourage you to keep opening your mouth on these issues, it shows your lack of intellect and knowledge and ability to critically analyse a situation. It also digs that hole for Little Johnny's government just a little bit deeper. Keep up the good work.
Posted by GetReal, Friday, 12 October 2007 3:46:21 PM
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