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Muslim academics must speak up : Comments

By Abe Ata, published 2/2/2007

Muslims lack one very important virtue - that of self-criticism.

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It stands to reason that anyone unfortunate enough to be infected with the teddy (god) mind virus has lost all claims to be an intellect. It's possible to refer to these infected types as simply scholars in a given branch of knowledge such as found within a religious playpen where there is much rote learning, chanting and repetition. However to a person who has never left such a playpen the concept of the real world must be terrifying. Take away the religious playpen and what are you left with? An insecure child without a teddy? What a terrifying prospect.
Posted by Keiran, Friday, 2 February 2007 2:39:12 PM
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The point is being missed. The Howard government together with the Labor party have created an environment were Muslims are now seen as aliens. Most people didnt think twice about what was happening in the middle-east before 9/11, now everyone has an opinion.

This has been a deliberate tactic by Bush and Howard and the rest of their supporters to demonise the Muslims, that way when we see Iraqi people being killed everyday or palestians we dont feel as bad.

There is backwardness in every religion - remember Fred Nile?
Posted by josh487, Friday, 2 February 2007 3:42:12 PM
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Some of the above posters have missed the point IMHO

Islam is the only theology that hasnt been subjected to open and honest scrutiny. Judaism has, and Christianity has. Jews and Christians agree to disagree and get on with life.

Islamacists cannnot tolerate any criticism of their religion, and do not to enquire further beyond the nonsense peddled by illiterate and ignorant Imams imported from some failed state in the ME.

When one does enquire further it becomes abundantly obvious why they have to shut down any debate and enquiry.

Thank god for the internet and the libraries of the world.
Posted by bigmal, Friday, 2 February 2007 4:22:30 PM
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Somebody once told me that the so called moderate muslims are moderate because they have not read the Koran.

Here’s how the Ayatollah Khomeini put it:
“Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter their armies.”

As for the bush and Howard governments bashing Islam, I think we don't need to bash Islam. They are doing a pretty good job of it themselves. There is some pretty heavy stuff coming out of the Muslim comunity lately and I have not heard any "moderate" muslims denying anything.

They say so and so's comments were "unfortunate" or "taken out of context" or "ill advised". Why don't they say "He was wrong"

Muslims seem to get more upset over someone publishing a cartoon than they do over someone flying planes into buildings and giving them a bad name.

Ask them what they think of 9/11 and they will say "we do not believe in killing innocent people". Have they answered the question? Do they believe that the 9/11 victims were inocent? I think you will find that they believe the 9/11 victims were guilty and deserved to die because they were Americans and America is against Islam.
Posted by proverbs, Friday, 2 February 2007 5:42:24 PM
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At least Abe Ata has made a good attempt at some cold hard analysis.The Muslim Religion much like the Christian Church of the past believes in absolutes. The reality in the world of courage and discovery is quite the opposite.

If you want to know about God's laws,study the religion of maths physics and science.These laws and logic are truer than any Koran or Bible,that were written by mortal ignorant men with their own personal agendas.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 2 February 2007 6:51:06 PM
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Abe,

Many muslim scholar comment and condemn weirdos's like Sheikh Fayez and others but it gets little attention in the media for whatever reasons.
Please stop repeating the rhetoric of 'Muslims must speak out and against' because it is really becoming frustrating.

If you want to be constructive, why don't you point your question to the media of not giving more space to modern Muslim scholars (you can look at the US media and Dr. Faisal Abdul Raouf as an example).

Australian media like weirdos like sheikh Fayez because his comments 'sells'.
Posted by Fellow_Human, Saturday, 3 February 2007 7:36:19 AM
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