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The US courts the hearts and minds of Muslims : Comments

By Pritam Singh, published 15/5/2006

The worldwide community of Muslims needs more than just schmoozing from the US to win them over.

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Horus, that little fever dream of yours is worrying: the monolithic Muslim mass you like to call the Ummah, composed of millions of revolting litle tinted folk from diverse lands, but all thinking nasty thoughts in ant-like unison and bent on offing the nearest non-Muslims to hand. Have you seen a doctor yet? Tried a cold shower? Chocolate? Booze? There must be something that'll keep The Horror at bay! Get some help, man. Before your nearest and dearest have you certified.
Posted by Strewth, Friday, 19 May 2006 5:31:02 PM
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Strewth.....

you never know.. maybe Horus.. like me.. has LIVED the nightmare.....

There is more world out there than Lygon street or South bank Latte coffee shops.. where the warm fuzzies are derived from a mutual back slapping/scratching/lathering of people with the same views.

There is no point in trying to win Muslim hearts in the sense Bush might want, its all a knee jerk economic pandering, out of fear of loss of access to oil.
In fact.. it probably has as much sincerity and dept as the Muslim bleatings about being 'peaceful democrats' when they are not in the dominant position.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 19 May 2006 6:30:58 PM
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Another sufferer! Must be an epidemic.
Posted by Strewth, Saturday, 20 May 2006 10:17:54 AM
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Mr Boaz read wikipedia and get cured from your paranoia. Likely you hold a very simple mechanics of this world, with religions as the only explanation.

Your know most people still believe in "one peace" (ie, the world will only peaceful if all we are all Muslims or Christians or Atheists). What kind of peace doesn't matter for if you believe on single peace, the peace would never begin.

Or peace is just a dream because competition to resources and ambitions can explain people's behavior more accurately than religions.
Posted by Jelata, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 1:34:00 PM
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Dear Jelata. salam hormat kpd Saudara yang dinilaikan.

Wikidpedia is not the source of my understanding of life, though it does help.

I don't believe there will ever be 'one peace' so perhaps I have not made myself clear.
There will always be a struggle between communities and faiths for the hearts and minds of people, and specially between communities/races/tribes/nations for resources.

For us, the important thing, is to maintain our position, culture, social fabric in the light of many pressures from outside.

One such example of this pressure is the events in USA right now, not with Muslims, but with Mexicans. It is becoming clearer by the day, that the Mexicans regard the massive influx of illegal immigrants as nothing less than 'taking back what was taken by force' many years ago, i.e. south western USA. They appear to forget the Madsen purchase where money was exchanged to finalize the border between Mexico and USA.

Such is the nature of humans. In the case of people who have based their society on an aggressive faith, such as Islam, then there will be more problems. It is one thing to squabble with your neighbour about who should have access to the well to feed stock, it is quite another to believe that you have a God given mission to conquer your neighbour so he will finally believe the right things.

When Christian nations embark on such adventures, one simply needs to refer to the scriptures to see how in error they are. In the case of Islam, one only needs to look at the life and behavior of its prophet, plus its many references to fighting for the faith, to see the opposite.

Any reaching out to 'hearts and minds' of Muslims is purely a convenience, and out of self interest. If it involves compromise of principle it will backfire.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 8:00:13 AM
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Mr Boaz yang dimuliakan,

It is easy sir, to build arguments that suit our beliefs. But objectivity is something we could only master with emptying our soul from desires and fears.

Simple look back to the history you can find that Muslims and Christians, or Pagans had commited aggresive brutalities to others, and even to their own people regarded as deviants. Lets not create an accountancy, it was undeniable, it was facts. If you could be honest, Christians won the worst examples in comparison to Muslims.

Your simple bible-koran theory have not yet make records in realities. Churches and Mosques are not precise simulators to our world, Sir. They are simulators to our imaginations.

If we could say that U.S is a christian nation, we can see now they must not have been well enlighted by Bible. And the light of Jesus were not bright enough to prevent the sad history of native Australians.

Simple doesnt mean true, Sir, the Tao works in secrecy.
Posted by Jelata, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 9:59:10 PM
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