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Turning a blind eye : Comments

By Susan Connelly, published 21/4/2006

The house is alight and the neighbours are fleeing - so does Australia ignore the plight of West Papuans?

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LOL, you've gone bonkers, Philo.

My name is not Yan and I am not a radiologist. I think you should take some sleeping pills and consult a psychiatrist to remedy your paranoia, mate.

After that, answer my question, what will you do if someone rape, murdered, and mutiliate your mother (this is what barbaric Papuan separatists did to Indonesian women and children).
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Saturday, 6 May 2006 3:41:20 AM
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Proud to be Indonesian,
From your statement below is is evident you still do not consider West Papuans as Indonesian; as you define them as such. That is your National problem it outcasts Indonesian born of Chinese parentage, West Papuans of native parentage etc, in your mind they are not Jarvanese Indonesian therefore not Indonesian. I rely on equal justice and human rights before our civilized law for all citizens living in Australia. Australia is a multiracial society where we encourage social assimilation and community.

A murderer is a criminal regardless of race, that includes Jarvanese milita dressed in official uniform or not who shoot without proper court justice native West Papuans merely protecting their land and heritage. I unlike you seek no revenge killings, but allow Court justice to be employed upon criminals. We do not sanction the State killing of criminals.

Quote, "what will you do if someone rape, murdered, and mutiliate your mother (this is what barbaric Papuan separatists did to Indonesian women and children).
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 6 May 2006 7:01:23 AM
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@Philo:

LOL, we Indonesians treat people of every one of our 750 different race and ethnicities as equals. We have two ethnic-Chinese and one Papuan in our current national cabinet.

We are superior to racist white Australians whose minds is only filled with racial and ethnic-hatred. You are a perfect display of the racist mindset of typical Australian whites, with your bizarre hatred of ethnic-Javanese. Your despicable support for the rape, murder, and mutiliation of Indonesian women and children by barbaric Papuan separatists is further evidence of your inferior and undeveloped level of civilisation. "White Australia Policy" and your despicable treatment of Aborigines is further evidence of the fundamental racism inherent in white Australians.
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Sunday, 7 May 2006 4:09:51 AM
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PTBI,
I have had several West Papuans live with me over the years while studying in Australia, several with university degrees in commerce and management. When they would enter the Universities in Indonesia for higher education they would be teased and called Orang Hutan [for the benifit of others it means monkeys of the jungle] and constantly degraded as less than human.

Obviously you carry on the same degrading view of West Papuans. You do not consider them as fully human so they are not true Indonesians. They consider themselves as part of Indonesia, but you would disown them because they want to protect their ancient land from Government theift and military pillage. Give them rights and respect and they will return the same - but perhaps it is too late as the record of the Indonesian opressive behaviour is too well established and the militia's pride unalterable to act civily with these people.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 7 May 2006 3:59:22 PM
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@Philo:

1)I don't believe your stories. You are far too immature, as you fail to see the fact that many white Australians displayed incredible racism towards those Australians of different racial backgrounds (Cronulla riots, White Australia Policy, use of "wog" phrase). Just look at this website to view how the racist whites viewed people of different ethnic-background: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=117

2)Indonesians will always consider Papuan separatists as dirty uncivilised barbarians. We've seen how these animals raped, murdered, and mutiliate Indonesian women and children. You would hate people who rape, murdered, and mutiliate your mother, won't you? No stupid Australian can ever change our hatred towards barbaric Papuan separatists. Indonesians, however, are sophisticated enough to differentiate between the tiny number barbaric separatists and the rest of Papuans, who are decent, law-abiding citizens who participate fully in Indonesian national life.
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Sunday, 7 May 2006 11:15:25 PM
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MORE evidence of Peaceful Javanese Solidarity and Chinese integration methods – Dumb Indonesians fooled again.

Anti-Chinese riots continue in Indonesia
JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Indonesian fishermen burned a shrimp warehouse Saturday morning in a second day of rioting against ethnic Chinese in a coastal town, newspapers reported.
……. Human rights groups say almost 1,200 people were killed in Jakarta during the May riots.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9808/29/indonesia.riot/

Rape of Jakarta
May 1998
"During the May riots, with regard to women there was mass rape and they were all Chinese (women). We met many victims and it was clear it was conducted in a widespread manner."
"Secondly it seems to have been conducted in an organized manner."
- Radhika Coomaraswamy, U.N. special rapporteur on violence against women -

"I believe the May event can be better understood as state-sponsored political crime than a spontaneous racial riot. There could be elements of both, and perhaps many more. They might have competed in some ways and complemented one another in other ways. However, as a result of the long history of systematic and state-led racialisation, the public miss the complexity and tend to see only the racial aspects. It may have misrecognise the more serious crime, thus exonerating the real culprits, namely the state agents and their proxies."
- Ariel Heryanto –

"...but the idea that all Chinese are wealthy is an illusion. Most of the hundreds of shops destroyed in Chinatown were mom-and-pop businesses, and many of the owners couldn't afford plane tickets to Singapore, Australia and other, like the thousands who flocked to Jakarta's international airport today."
- Washington Post -

"Among the victim who were sexually abused, raped, were young ethnic Chinese girls. There is one rape case involving a 12 year-old. They were stripped naked, tortured and sexually abused beyond humanity. There was no security enforcement due to racial prejudice towards the ethnic Chinese."
- Women's Rights Monitoring Group in Indonesia -

"Some of the rapists said, `You must be raped because you are Chinese,' ..."
- The New York Times –

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3233/
Posted by Kekenidika, Monday, 8 May 2006 1:53:32 AM
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