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New world order not so new : Comments

By Osman Softic, published 27/4/2006

Are predictions of peace on earth little more than utopic fantasy?

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Donnie - it may appear that the global islamic terrorism problem is the work of only a few extremists, this is exactly what the media and politicians have succeded to make us all believe.

This far, no “moderate” Muslims of stature has been ready to stand up and challenge in public Islamic religion-motivated, xenophobic aggression. (No prize for guessing why)

It is part of islamic tenets as modelled by their prophet mohammad to be aggressive to all non-muslim. Jews (and Christians) according to the Koran are descendents of apes and pigs, i.e., they are subhuman beings, and fair game.

This mortal hatred intrinsic“truth" is taught in all Muslim religious schools from the age of four and five.

A reformation of islam is out of the question. No Muslim is allowed to question even a single word of the Qur'an. The penalty for that is death of course.

Democracy is out in islam. Only Allah's law is respected. So to trust muslims to denounce their religious beliefs and become peaceful law abiding citizens is pure phantasies.

In all fairness I know of many muslims who came here escaping islamic regimes and wanting nothing to do with their religion but are too scared of the repercussions should they dare renounce their faith.
Posted by coach, Thursday, 27 April 2006 5:50:10 PM
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we can usa any mumer fo excuses as to why we have war in the human species... fact is we do and we always will as far as i can see from today. No ethic, religion, science, philosphy, idealogy etc has yet solved the nature of humans war like tendencies. We have minds, opinions and choices and will always disagree here and there.

The constant blame on religion is pointless as is the blame of anything as the total problem...

I think we must accept our nature and stop trying to force change on some of the most fundimental instincts we have, by this i mean the survival of oneself and ones prefered ethic, religion, science, philosphy, idealogy etc.

My biggest hope is that we can make our wars more efficient, quick and less painful.

As always I'm going for the West, my preferance is democracy!
Posted by meredith, Thursday, 27 April 2006 6:00:59 PM
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One only need read the newspapers every day to see the impact of Muslims on Western countries. Crimes and antisocial behaviour by Muslims far outweigh their numbers.

Muslims constitute only a small percentage of Australia’s population, yet the reports in Sydney newspapers over the past few days tell the true story.

1. The terrorism trial in the NSW Supreme Court of accused terrorist Faheem Lodhi who migrated from Pakistan to Australia supposedly "for a better life" – not to wage a violent jihad on Australians, of course.

2. Drug death prisoner on bomb charge

‘A prisoner who allegedly instructed his girlfriend to bomb Sydney is to be charged by counter-terrorism police. Hassan Kalache, serving 22 years for the execution of a drug rival was interviewed by the specialist officers yesterday…

3. Gun pulled in baby ward

‘A gunman threatened a hospital security guard while visiting his wife in a maternity ward last night. The man, described as being of Middle Eastern appearance, brandished his weapon at Auburn Hospital just before 9pm.

4. Police drop charges for riot reprisal

‘Last minute legal advice has failed to stave off the dropping of charges against 6 men accused of reprisal attacks following the Cronulla riots, dealing an embarrassing blow to the state government.’

5. The doctor father of the Pakistani gang rapists arrested for perjury, and also under watch by the Medical Board for overprescribing addictive drugs.

This is a 'minority'? Tell that to the Europeans who no longer have freedom of speech and expression because of the violent, dysfunctional followers of Islam who have been allowed to flood into Europe and bring their hatred with them.
Posted by dee, Thursday, 27 April 2006 6:57:04 PM
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yess dee,

with islam we need to push back harder than they push us to win this one.
Posted by meredith, Thursday, 27 April 2006 9:50:30 PM
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Dee, I don't know where you got the figures in your first post from, but they don't really add up. A good site for 20th Century death figures is http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm . Approx 55 million died in WW2 alone, 15 million in WW1. If you say that 38 million died in all 20th Century wars does that mean you're only counting combatants? A lot more civilians than soldiers died in WW2. I would suggest that most WW2 deaths should probably be sheeted home to Japan and Germany (ie not communists), but that's just my opinion. Your figures for Stalin are also the subject of dispute, but that's not to say that Communist Russia under Stalin was not a Really Bad Place.

I don't disagree that the 20th Century has seen few religious wars, but what really distiguishes it from previous eras is the mechanisation of killing. Machine guns, aerial bombing, poison gas, nuclear weapons etc etc. We have become more efficient, but no smarter.

On your second post, why is it that every thread on this forum inevitably deteriorates into an anti-Muslim rant?
Posted by Johnj, Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:23:19 PM
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The young lady on insight had it right; don't tolerate; accept.Come on
we all have different opinions and ideals.Good and bad in every race;it's the bad seeds that we need to weed out. Not with war;it proves it's own point(war doesn't differentiate between good and bad,it maims and kills anyway). Meredith and Dee you just want more bloodshed cause that is all war is.It is power trippin people like you who are the problem.More quick and efficient? Get real. Make lottsa love, if your capable, if your not take a good hard look at yourself. That is what your missin.
Posted by Princey@yahoo.com.au, Friday, 28 April 2006 7:03:16 AM
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