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Home education grows up : Comments

By Susan Wight, published 13/2/2006

Home education has often been very successful in Victoria but this is now under threat.

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jdr, this has nothing to do with the fed government.......state schools are run and controlled by state govs.
Posted by vinny, Saturday, 18 February 2006 12:13:07 PM
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Absolutely correct vinney.

And let me tell you, those state governments are driven by ideological zealots hell-bent on controlling what your children think. These Labor government "educators" are passionately driven to control and brainwash your kids into swallowing their ideology and to destroy any free or independant thinking kids who pop up along the way. It's not an imaginary conspiracy, it's an outright and overt attack on the freedom of thought of children. Anyone who can't see it, is either blind or just too darn busy to take the time to look beyond the surface.

The comments made by Rogo above are all shockingly true.

But it is reassuring to see that at least some people here understand the nature of the state Labor governments' intent that pervades the education departments of ALL our states and are prepared to stand up and do something about it. Thank goodness there is some resistance to the state control of our kids, but I fear it may be too little and from far too few.

Good luck to you all in your endeavours.
Posted by Maximus, Saturday, 18 February 2006 12:51:01 PM
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Jolanda I have read what you have said in your culture of education,how dispicably you have been treated.You must feel you have been dealing with something insane. Welcome to the new millenium, you have been Diapraxed! Diaprax is a term coined by professor Dean Gotcher to discribe the pactice of Hegels dielectic process. This process is now used all over the place by government departments and especially in education circles. The new principle of a local primary school where I live in northern Victoria is using it to transform the school and to keep a close friend who is a teacher inline. You can find Gotchers book to read on the internet. He is grappling to explain something that is insane. I admire your tenacity to get to the bottom of things, you have been dealing with people who are trained in madness to keep you from the truth.
Posted by Rogo, Saturday, 18 February 2006 4:30:17 PM
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This may be of interest. We have 5 children all who have been home schooled from the start. This week our eldest a 16 YO went into a Government school at TAFE for the first time to do a course, and what did he end up doing on his first day The teacher delegated him to go around the other students and help them with their work. My son is not what you would call an especially gifted student by some standards, he has just been home schooled. We have close friends who have 4 adopted children whom they home school, one of them is especially gifted and so he is in the very best place possible to develope his gift. I could not imagine him in a state run school, he would be bored stiff they would have him in year 6 but his knowledge would be at least year 10 standard upwards. Who can set standards anyhow every person is unique, some of the best business people I know flunked primary shool level.
Posted by Rogo, Saturday, 18 February 2006 5:05:56 PM
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I home educated two of my three children but stopped when my marriage broke up and I had to work fulltime.

Those early years the children chose their learning although I supplied many materials and opportunities. I also attended camps and classes with other home-educating families. The home-educated children were relaxed, mature and socialised naturally with any age group.

When I put my boys in school, after the initial shock of a totally alien environment they quickly reached the top of the class and generally managed to be 'teachers pet' and popular with their classmates. At playtime the other children turned to them to organise the play because their games were so interesting. My sons 6th Grade teacher said in all his years (he was over 60) he'd never met a child more natural, loving and enthusiastic about learning than my son.

Secondary college was awful. I was in a poor area and sent my oldest out of zone but the school I sent him to put all out-of-zone children with the problem kids. Meanwhile my daughter in primary learnt a mob mentality and was constantly anxious about what others thought of her or how to 'fit in'.

My eldest dropped out by the age of 14. He now works for a University designing their Computer Based Training modules working in a range of design software and programming languages.

My second eldest developed a crippling disease and is invalided.

My daughter got involved with a gang of shoplifters and vandalisers who were her friends at school and ran away from home.

If you have the time and resources home education is wonderful. It is a good solution for those parents who live in poor areas, if they don't work fulltime as the schools in those areas are breeding grounds for criminals and for depression and despair.

My daughters problems stemmed from school combined with a mother working too hard and unavailable to her at a crucial time in her upbringing-the opposite of homeschooling. That's what can happen if you leave your children's upbringing in the hands of the state system.
Posted by Aziliz, Monday, 20 February 2006 8:42:16 AM
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Thank you Rogo so much for acknowledging what my family have been going through with the Education system as insane! They try to make you think and everybody believe that it is you and because the majority of people dont want to get involved and/or dont care, it works to support those that are doing it to your family. You have no idea how many more things have been done to my children at school and to my family out of school. Its like the more that they do to you the more people ignore you and keep away from you so it pays i f they target you mercilessly because it means people think that it cant possibly be true. Oh but it is! It's just mind boggling. Now I am being threatened to be sued with defamation by the Crown Solicitor. Its just unbelieveable the amount of protection public servants get - no matter what they do!

I have no choice but to persue this matter as it is just too much, how much can they get away with. Surely we have laws!

I will read up on what you suggested. Maybe it might help me understand. Sorry its taken a while to get back, I actually thought I clicked the button to be notified of posts, but I obviously didn't.
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 2 March 2006 12:41:34 PM
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