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Religious tolerance will ensure community safety : Comments

By Mark Zirnsak, published 24/8/2005

Mark Zirnsak argues it is time to stop the misinformation campaign against the Victorian Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

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Xena,
You certainly have a lot more reasons to butter up Islam since you are an atheistic Lesbian. Otherwise under Islam your life is ended unless you denounce your atheism, and marry like every good little Muslim girl and have lots of children.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 9 September 2005 2:32:16 PM
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The Pastor who your article refers to grew up in Pakistan as a muslim. He converted to Christianity when he was an adult and he was persecuted for it. What the Pastor danny Scot was doing was simply telling his congregation of the disgusting religious intolerance in Pakistan, in many tribal areas christian converts would be killed. He came to Australia to avoid a similar fate. The reason he was referring to the Quaran is because he was reiterating the passages that muslims themselves have read to him and others, explaining the religious "proof" that they have to kill those who leave Islam.
If this can lead to vilification of some sort then we are all in trouble. The day I am banned from simply demonstrating to others of another's racism, whether this delves into "an old book" or not, is a
sick day for justice.
What it really is is a further demonstration that the "left" multicultural idiots do actually realise that they have been wrong, but rather than admit this by joining the "One Nation Party" or such they would actually change such a sacred law! This simply speaks of the "lefts" arrogance for everyone else, even our laws can go to hell, as long as it helps to cover the big bulge of rubbish already under the rug!
Posted by M.S.Burns, Monday, 12 September 2005 9:15:43 AM
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Just a quick correction - Daniel Scot was never a Muslim.
He did grow up in Pakistan and he did study 'Islamic studies at University, he passed with 100%. He needed to study this to teach in a University.
What a pity university lecturers do not have to study our Christian heritage and freedoms before teaching in our Universities.
Ps Scot was driven out of Pakistan - his life was threatened - he was told that unless he converted to Islam his life was in danger.
Posted by Peter Stokes, Monday, 12 September 2005 6:17:45 PM
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Ramallah, West Bank, September 3-4.
Some 15 Muslim youths from one village, Dair Jarir, rampaged against Taybeh, a neighboring all-Christian village of 1,500 people.
The reason - A Muslim woman from Dair Jarir, Hiyam Ajaj, 23, fell in love with her Christian boss, Mehdi Khouriyye, owner of a tailor shop in Taybeh. The couple maintained a clandestine two-year affair and she became pregnant in about March 2005. When her family members learned of her condition, they murdered her. That was on about September 1; unsatisfied even with this "honor killing" – for Islamic law strictly forbids non-Muslim males to have sexual relations with Muslim females – the Ajaj men sought vengeance against Khouriyye and his family.

Two days later in an assault they took Taybeh. The Ajajs and their friends broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry, and electrical appliances. They threw Molotov cocktails at some buildings and poured kerosene on others, then torched them. The damage included at least 16 houses, some stores, a farm, and a gas station. The assailants vandalized cars, destroyed and looted extensively.

"It was like a war," one Taybeh resident told the Jerusalem Post. Hours passed before the Palestinian Authority security and fire services arrived. The 15 assailants spent only a few hours in police detention, then were released. As for Khouriyye, the Palestinian Arab police arrested him, kept him in jail, and (his family says) have repeatedly beat him.

As the news service Adnkronos International notes, for Palestinian Christians "the fact that the Muslim aggressors have been released while the Christian tailor-shop owner is still being held, at best symbolizes the PA's indifference to the plight of Palestinian Christians, at worst shows it is taking sides against them."

A cousin, Suleiman Khouriyye, pointed to his burned house. "They did this because we're Christians. The Khouriyyes and others recall the assailants shouting "Allahu Akbar" and anti-Christian slogans: "Burn the infidels, burn the Crusaders." To that, an unrepentant cousin of Hiyam Ajaj replied, "We burned their houses because they dishonored our family, not because they are Christians." (New York Sun, September 13, 2005, An excerpt)
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 17 September 2005 9:15:39 AM
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yep just a few local small town extremists ... nothing to worry about
Posted by meredith, Saturday, 17 September 2005 9:19:57 AM
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PHILO .. strangely remeniscent of the Telopea street boys and the attack on Lakemba Police station.. by an extended family. Sounds also like the attack by Muslim males on Jeff Fenech.

So I repeat my call for a MUCH tighter immigration scrutiny and a laying down of the law, (our law) and conditonal citizenship "P" plate type, with deportation a real possibility for anyone bringing such attitudes to this fair minded country.

The same would go for ANY person wishing to migrate here, not just the Muslims/Lebanese who we seem to be most often referring to.

I'd add another little tid bit. "Cultural manners" which would include NOT having your ghetto blaster blaring out Afghani music wailing away from your table at a public picnic place, while the extended family goes for a walk, subjecting all the 'others' to a form of cultural insult and rudeness that boggles the mind.

Meredith.. well said.

Kactuz, amen. How blind are they who cannot see this 'stands out like a country toilet' situation at the root of Islam. There is a difference between pointing out the evil fundamentals of a faith, and directly condemning all adherants of a faith. We have the common sense to know that most people just want to see 'good' in their faith.
So the issue is one of informing them of reality.

Xena, I'll book you in at the Medonick eye clinic for some laser surgery :) by the way, I'm waiting for your response with some feedback from your muslim friends. ( I did my bit)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 17 September 2005 10:29:57 AM
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