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Izzy Folau repeats an obligato in the OLO score : Comments

By Graham Young, published 15/4/2019

My hope is that what we are experiencing is the teething pangs of what is still a very new technology, and that with more instances like this, common-sense and tolerance will reassert themselves

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I don't know what your social, religious, or political opinions are, Mr. Valley Guy. But I hope your employer finds them so offensive that he sacks you from your job for expressing them publically on a public forum. Maybe then you might grow a brain and figure out that no employer has the right to tell their employees what to think, say, or write.

If you went into a church and demanded that Christians be castrated, you would be guilty of inciting violence, which is one of the few generally accepted limits on freedom of speech involving political, social, and religious opinions.

Freedom of speech in Australia today ends with the supposedly hurt feelings of some leftist approved minority group. 18C was initially limited to the hurt feelings of races (except the white race who are fair game), but now is being extended to homosexuals, and will soon be extended again to Muslims (but never to Christians). This "mission creep" was predicted and has come to pass. It only needs to be extended again to politicians, political leaders, and political policy and we can join Venezuela in yet another socialist paradise
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 15 April 2019 6:26:19 PM
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The irony here is that, although OLO did experience the direct vicious campaigning of gay activists in 2010, in the current imbroglio that group seems silent. It seems they can now afford to act sensibly, not seeing any personal threat in the articulation of perfectly ordinary views by an ordinary Christian believer. No, the noise is coming from professional virtue signallers who are trying to protect 'organisational reputations' (as if a corporation can have a religion). As a result, what they say is nonsense or hypocrisy or both. They should hang their heads in shame.
Posted by TomBie, Monday, 15 April 2019 6:38:32 PM
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By signing and accepting the $4 million that
Israel Folau did, part of the contract was
not putting anything on social media that
may potentially offend.

Twelve months ago he was hauled in and told,

"Please do not do that again." And he agreed not to.

12 months later he's done it again.

Rugby Australia has decided that under their own codes
this is not acceptable behaviour. Especially from someone
that did sign a contract and agreed to certain terms.
And was warned that if he persisted in his behaviour
there would be consequences.

Rugby Australia and the NSW Rugby Union have made repeated
attempts to contact Mr Folau both directly and via his
reps since last week and at this point he has failed
to communicate directly with either organisation.

This is not about restricting his "freedom of speech."
This is about the consequences of breaking the terms of
the contract that he signed and agreed to and for which he got very generously renumerated. He'd already been warned.
He chose to ignore everything.

It was his choice. And Rugby Australia under the terms of
the contract had every right to sack him.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 April 2019 7:05:51 PM
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cont'd ...

Now before I get attacked by the usual suspects
I want to add that I am not saying that I
agree with the decision of Rugby Australia.
And I am not anti-religion. All I am doing is
pointing out that under the terms of the contract
that Folau signed and agreed to, and after the
warnings he'd received - Rugby Australia was within
its rights - right or wrong, to do what they did.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 April 2019 7:10:54 PM
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Foxy is technically correct but I reckon that in usual circumstances nothing would be done to enforce such a contract unless a complaint was received. Who complained?
Posted by TomBie, Monday, 15 April 2019 7:19:22 PM
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Dear TomBie,

The following link explains further:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/folau-ignored-my-warning-says-rugby-australia-chief-castle-20190415-p51ee3.html

Rugby Australia Chief - Castle said that Folau is not
being punished for his religious beliefs.

"This is not a religious discussion this is a
discussion around the employee-employer relationship and
the values and contractual arrangements within that agreement.
That's the basis on which we've served him a breach notice."

He'been warned many times.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 April 2019 7:43:50 PM
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