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Reading The Koran : Comments

By Laurence Maher, published 11/4/2019

The Australian National Imams Council should state publicly that, when it comes to the law, in Australia Islam is no different from any other religion when it comes to the law

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Foxy,

Islamic law can be followed if both parties contract and agree to do so. However, even in this case it has to be within the bounds of Australian law.

For example, any marital agreement that contracts to give custody of the children to the father as per Islamic law is null and void in an Australian court where the best interests of the child override any contract.

Similarly, any will that delivers 90% of the assets to a male child and 10% to a female child as per Islamic law will fall apart if the female child challenges it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:38:42 PM
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To respond to Foxy, there is a widespread habit of using wrong terminology and the word "law" is one such example.
A law is a form of binding regulation, demanding adherance.
Religious belief and practice, on the other hand, is covered by belief and guidance in moral principles and any enforcement is determined by persuasion, not by compulsion.
Posted by Ponder, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:46:36 PM
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Islamic law can be followed if both parties contract and agree to do so.
Shadow Minister,
Islam is a religion & we already have a Law !
Want islamic Law ? Go to an islamic country !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 11 April 2019 5:33:19 PM
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Which of the two following statements would likely be acceptable to be
printed in a book under hate speech laws.

Kill moslems wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill
them. Such is the reward of moslems. (2:191)

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then
kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (2:191)
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:45:30 PM
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The Islamic religion is unique in that it is one of the world's major religions, and it is a religion who's own holy texts instruct it's followers to be entirely intolerant of non believers, and to kill, maim, torture, behead, crucify, humiliate, and enslave non Muslims. Furthermore, it is a religion which instructs that women are inferior to men, and are in fact, the property of men. In addition, those Muslims who wish to leave Islam should be murdered, and also that Islamic law is above secular law.

How could Australian politicians and bureaucrats have been stupid enough to allow such a dangerous religion to enter Australia? Well, it comes down to leftist humanitarian ideology, which considers all religions, races, and cultures to be equal. Under such stupidity, nobody even bothered to look at the teachings of the Koran and the Hadiths figure out if Islam was compatible with western values. Those who did do their homework and point it out were simply shouted down as "racists."

When the racists were yet again proven to be right, and the predicted social and economic problems with Islam eventuated, the Foxy clones had a couple of problems. Their first problem was, that it proved that their humanitarian ideology they so fervently believe in was just plain stupid. The second problem was a lot worse. That is, that they regard themselves as a Brahmin class of intellects, morally and intellectually superior to the lower classes they despise, and the bourgeoisie (who are usually their parents) they despise even more.

To admit that they got is so horribly wrong, and that they have burdened their own country with a serious and endemic problem of terrorism and social instability, is something they don't want to contemplate. So, like any idiot who puts their self esteem above anything else, they just go into denial and become apologists for a religion which fundamentally opposes every liberal ideal they have always advocated.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 12 April 2019 4:41:08 AM
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I'm afraid I don't understand all these attacks
on the religion of Islam in this discussion.
History shows that in Australia Islam has been
part of this culture since the early settlement.
Arrivals from many countries brought Islam here.
The early cameleers who helped our explorers
were Muslims.

Looking through religious history - Christians
also have a rather questionable history of
violence. Read about the Crusaders, Teutonic
Knights, their exploits, the religious wars in
England, the Inquisition, just to mention a few.

This discussion is about the laws which govern our
civil society - and the fact that we are all
required to abide by them. It should not be about attacks
on the Islamic religion. Fundamentalists exist
in all religions and of course criminals and thugs
and terrorists, and extremists,
should not be tolerated and should
face the full brunt of the law. But as the recent
massacres in Christchurch have shown - extremists
come in all shapes and sizes - and what we say and do
does have consequences.

Spreading hatred is not the answer.

Now back to the discussion.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 12 April 2019 9:09:41 AM
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