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Africa: population growth, governance, democracy : Comments

By Guy Hallowes, published 3/4/2019

The third world, and Africa in particular, needs to be persuaded that it is it in its absolute best interests to put in place measures that will help to reduce – or at least plan and control – population growth.

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People in the know years ago came to the conclusion that Africa, with the exception of a couple of countries on that continent, is a lost cause. There is nothing that is said or done that will change the situation.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 8:48:34 AM
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The greatest hope for stemming population growth is Social Security, particularly an adequate Age Pension.

Such a pension removes the need for numerous children for support in old age.

Africa will never achieve this desirable state in the foreseeable future.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 9:57:13 AM
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Of course, we must focus on limiting runaway population growth and by employing the only remedy that has ever worked!

As opposed to control freaks pounding on pulpits and trying to make other folk's decisions for them. Even as we spectate events like the Rwandan genocide and massacres.

And over fifty million in refugee camps put there by drought displacement caused by runaway climate change!

The only tried tested and proven method of limiting population growth has only ever been achieved by improving the average incomes of the affected populations.

Rather than shiploads of pulpit-pounding of, we know best, control freak, parsimonious postulations!

Where required backed by gunboat diplomacy and going directly to NGO's with targeted aid and aid projects. so they reach the villages, rather than the coffers of tyrants and genocidal butchers.

And should be selectively targeted at those nations that have embraced constitutional democracy and as gifts of energy production and potable water projects. Along with microloans at the village level that foster and encourage cottage industries and co-ops that improve the average lot in those targeted villages!

Power they can all afford is a good place to start and logically that has to be MSR thorium. Followed by deionisation dialysis desalination to produce all the AFFORDABLE potable water they also need!

Both absolute essentials to ending endemic generational poverty! The final key? Gender equality education!

Pulpit-pounding Bullies have never ever solved anything! But invariably sow the seeds of discontent and disharmony! And may well have blood on their sh!te stirring hands?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 10:55:54 AM
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What if the reverse is the truth....http://www.wired.com/story/the-world-might-actually-run-out-of-people/

Mankind has long since learned how to arrest population growth. The problem is that those who fret about the problem don't like the answer and so continue to look for 'better' answers.

The answer? Economic growth. In every single region, country or society, economic growth has led to a decline in the birth rate and eventually a decline in the population.

So Africa doesn't need more aid or more NGO's offering 'help'. It simply needs more capitalism.

Next problem please.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 11:14:22 AM
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Yes Mhaze, essentially correct. But at oft times the only road to capitalism is by avoiding corrupt governments that turn aid into bullets and bombs to use on their own civilian populations! Therefore, the only way to promote organic economic growth is via NGO's that distribute international aid at the village level as microloans that enable very local cottage industries, solar power and potable water projects.

Two-thirds of the homes on his planet are places that do not have washing machines. consequently, see entire female populations made into virtual laundry and water carrying slaves, with no time left for basic education and literacy.

Just fixing that much at the village level has to help, as would the distribution of free condoms!
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 12:23:46 PM
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I have the answer to their over population problem.

Pull all the White people out of Africa.
Stop sending them Aid of any description.
Allow Africa return to being the Dark Continent.

It will take 25 years but the problem will solve itself.

Too easy.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 5:58:26 PM
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"Surely population growth is what we should be focusing on more than anything?"

Emmanuel Macron raised this issue and was labelled all sorts of nasty things. And he's a left-liberal pin-up boy.

Bill Gates has made similar remarks: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/gates-warns-turning-point-africa-population-booms/
Posted by Bozec, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 6:54:55 PM
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http//www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/gates-warns-turning-point-africa-population-booms/
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 7:42:08 PM
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Another try!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/gates-warns-turning-point-africa-population-booms/

Worked.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 7:43:33 PM
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Great article Guy Hallowes. Well done thanks very much.

Australia and the other western democracies could offer leadership by recognising that rapid population growth is a long term problem. Simply reducing immigration to net zero (the same out as in) which is about 70,000 per year and eliminating tax and welfare benefits past the second child, would send a message that population growth is a problem that needs to be managed.

It is no surprise that Kenya and Nigeria don't listen to Australia on population while Australia is enthusiastically trying to increase its population.
Posted by ericc, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 7:52:07 PM
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ericc,

Australians have shown that they want a stable population by a) reducing their own family sizes, and b) consistently supporting lower levels of immigration.

Yet the major parties in this country refuse to listen to public opinion and have put us on a path to double our population roughly every 45 years through massive immigration. This raises serious questions about exactly how 'democratic' Australia really is.

We like to think we are a robust democracy but I think Australia increasingly resembles a corrupt oligarchy.
Posted by Bozec, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 8:01:51 PM
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Just look at Population Minister Alan Tudge on 60 Minutes recently trying to avoid answering questions about future population levels: https://twitter.com/60mins/status/1109758717136785415

He clearly doesn't want to give us a straight answer!
Posted by Bozec, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 8:12:17 PM
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That's true Bozec but Australian voters also need to step up and vote them out instead of just wringing our hands and saying well we can only choose Lib or Lab so nothing we can do.

I think if Lib or Lab did something sensible on high immigration they would take a big chunk of Pauline Hanson and One Nation's votes.
Posted by ericc, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 8:29:48 PM
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"Even with the extensive checks and balances in our own democracies, however, the democratic process faces a growing threat from nationalism, populism and authoritarian leadership – in Europe, in the United States and in our own democracy in Australia."

I'd like to know where they get this crap from.
Somebody has to be teaching them these ideas.

I look at the bigger picture and I see this:

Democracy Now = a total handover of our democracy for 2030 globalist agendas
And;
2030 Globalist agendas will mean we effectively have no democracy at all.

Tell me when all this 2030 crap has come to pass, what will be left for people to decide on?

It's a total misnomer and anyone with even half a brain can see it.
You preach the idea of democracy, but what you're actually selling is authoritarianism pure and simple.

So please tell me:
Who put these ideas in your head?
- That Nationalism and Populism have anything at all to do with the authoritarianism that YOU'RE trying to sell?

Nationalism and Populism is essentially a nation of people choosing their own path forward, and you seek to take that away from all western nations and replace it with something else.

You talk all this utter bs about population growth;
But western nations birthrates without UN immigration are not expanding.
You whinge about the nationalists and populism, but under OUR WISHES
- There wouldn't be any more immigration;
You wouldn't be able to bitch and guilt trip us with your climate change crap either.
You can only do that by artificially creating population growth in all our countries first so that you can guilt trip about population growth, while you steal our soverignty and and any last vestigage of democracy with it.

Immigrants won't vote with the nationalists when the left polarises everything into race based issues.
They are stealing our country out from under our feet.
- By telling us were racist -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 April 2019 10:21:40 PM
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They are stealing our country out from under our feet.
- By telling us were racist -
Armchair critic,
Yes and, then there are are those so reprehensible to sell the country out from under their feet to foreigners for the almighty Dollar !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 6 April 2019 3:25:43 PM
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Dear Everard.

The Africans are never going to limit their population growth because black Africans in general have low intelligence. According to the great book "The Bell Curve", black African Americans have mean IQ's of 85, while "white" people have a mean IQ of 103. Asian Americans mean IQ is 106, while non orthodox Jews are 115.

East African blacks (Sudanese and Somalis) have a mean IQ of around 70, which is not much above moron level. Conformation of this sad fact is evidenced by the way Somalis and Sudanese act in Melbourne. You have to be pretty dumb to rob a security camera equipped jewelry store without bothering to wear a mask. That does not mean they are all dumb, Somali Hirsan Ali is one very intelligent woman. So smart that she renounced Islam and is now it's most effective critic.

When Francis Crick, Nobel Laureate, co discoverer of the DNA double helix, and Director of the Human Genome Project, simply quipped to a reporter that it was impossible to help Africa because Africans had very low intelligence, he was sacked from all of his scientific positions. At least today we don't show our top scientists "the instruments of torture" as the Papacy did to Galileo, when they say something that's true but not politically correct.

So, unable to convince the Africans what is in their best interests, we are going to have to rely upon the traditional means of population control. War, famine and disease. News Flash. African American Tennessee man David Hatchet fathered 29 children to 11 different women and has been taken to court for non payment of child support.

The reality is that despite the screeching of leftist social engineers, Mother Nature is no egalitarian. People are in fact unequal in intellectual potential. And they are born that way. Just as they are born with different potentials for height, physical attractiveness, artistic flair, athletic prowess, and other traits. Although subsequent experience shapes and can even improve on this material, no amount of social engineering can make individuals with widely divergent mental aptitudes into intellectual equals
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 7 April 2019 5:12:55 AM
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