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When trees have emotions, irrationality takes root : Comments

By Allen Greer, published 5/10/2018

Wholleben’s goal with the book is to make us believe that trees are like sentient animals and to have us treat them accordingly.

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I think this author is a bit disingenuous in his criticism of Peter Wohlleben.

Wohlleben is telling people what they deep down want to hear. The book is a world best seller. His views form part of the "equality" march into madness: he recognises the fact that the West has gone mad, and has cottoned-on to the goldmine it is to go along with it.

Give him some credit. Science has little to do with that madness! Gay marriage?
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 5 October 2018 9:56:28 AM
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A tree, any tree is a plant. And stores carbon whether vertical or horizontal.

Throughout all of nature there are symbiotic relationships and for mutual benefit. And only proves survival strategies at the most basic instinctive level.

Yes, we and all life in whatever form, are all made of molecules, which in turn are constructed by various collections of atoms, that in turn are constructs of the application of chained and vibrating energy.

Intelligence is indicated by a measurable thought process. And inherent in all forms of communication.

When you or I think a thought or communicate, there is a transfer of electrical energy through various synapses of the brain. When this no longer occurs. We are said to be brain dead! And strikingly obvious in every plant we grow or harvest and in every forest!

And it would seem in the author and all his mentally defective brother and sisterhood? As they put their lives on the line to save a tree. but won't under any circumstances, pick up a weapon to defend friends, family or neighbours? But can get quite belligerent and violent when opposing logging etc.

Native populations have for millennia, been selectively logging their forests, without harm or negative consequences to flora or fauna. But then their very survival has meant, they need to be guided by logic's rites and rational decisions!

Imagine, if all the native peoples the world over had adopted this loony tune approach? Our species would have long disappeared off the face of the planet! As the trees marked our passing by feasting on the nutrients our rotting corpses would have provided!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 5 October 2018 10:38:17 AM
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"trees marked our passing by feasting on the nutrients"
Gum trees have a terrorist reputation dropping branches on victims for nutrient feasting. Ever wondered why camp fire smoke always stalks you ?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:33:05 AM
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if all human beings were actually sentient animals, rather than clowns full of these crazy ideas, or empty vessels able to be filled with this sort of rubbish by the crazies?
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:56:54 AM
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Wooden ships such as a naval man o war with male name is a "she".
That's OK but steel ships being "she" is crazy.
"Surprise: HMS Prince of Wales is not only afloat, she now also has HV power". Next it'll be the Harbour Bridge , then trains then mobiles.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 5 October 2018 12:22:07 PM
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Speaking of trees, the natural world altogether, and the collective psychotic madness of dreadfully sane Western man why not check out these references.
http://www.dabase.org/trees.htm

http://sacredforests.earth/page-7/plants-and-grass

http://fearnomore.vision/non-human/the-non-humans-are-still-sane

The last references is an excerpt from this talk/essay

http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/spacetim.html

This essay describes and criticizes the all-encompassing cultural consequences of our dreadful (psychotic) sanity too:

http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/bridge_to_god/index.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 5 October 2018 1:31:49 PM
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Trees have feelings?

I'm looking at Weeping Willows in a whole new light.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 5 October 2018 3:03:12 PM
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Only recently have we known of interactions between mycorrhizal plants and pathogens, herbivores, and parasitic plants. And the lymphatic system and its role in snake-bite was not widely publicised for decades.
Trees keep their politics to themselves , a most commendable policy especially in cyber warfare nations. A stethoscope reveals the humming buzz of activity inside trees notably the revered oak of druid and the cedar , Devadaru "tree of the gods". They are watching.
And waiting.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 5 October 2018 3:08:02 PM
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Peter Wholleben's ideology and the evolution fantasy are cousins.
Posted by runner, Friday, 5 October 2018 5:28:21 PM
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I was going to make some remark about selfish genes and the usefulness of allegories in selling books to people who aren't that into science. But between Dan, Alan, Nick and runner, this thread is like a crackhead's picnic. I'll leave you guys to it.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 5 October 2018 5:42:26 PM
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Trees have emotions & way more sense than a lot of the people who gather en masse to plant them when the time is right for fads.
Posted by individual, Friday, 5 October 2018 7:04:50 PM
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I always knew that vegetarians were mass murderers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 7 October 2018 7:17:36 PM
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This sounds like Pantheism. I'm not sure that plants have the same level of consciousness as mammals. It could be argued that therefore the death of a higher life form is worse than the death of a lower life form. You could relate this to thermodynamics and say that an increase in the number of degrees of freedom is bad. You could argue that humans are breed as omnivores and therefore eating meat is not bad as how can animals be bad- they are just following the laws of nature. Does that mean the vegetarians are bad for denying their nature and that of the universe- And hence stunting it's development. At any rate I wouldn't want to be the meat. Balance...
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 4:17:16 PM
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Already the carnivorous plants are working up the food chain from insects . Killer packs of fly-eaters will move on 1) dull-witted root-bound trees 2) homo sapiens. We can expect ranks of authority , first signs of religion and the flowering of plant music and poetry, as they connect with distant plant powered planets.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 5:14:48 PM
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//This sounds like Pantheism//

No it doesn't. Go and read some Spinoza.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 11 October 2018 5:19:56 AM
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Mountain ash, Eucalyptus regnans, is the tallest of all flowering plants. Traditionally a monarchist , it's name means "well covered ruling" and overlooks Canberra and its earthlings . Allied with the redwoods of California which are a few mm taller it's unstoppable.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 11 October 2018 7:38:10 AM
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Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 11 October 2018 5:19:56 AM-
//This sounds like Pantheism//
No it doesn't. Go and read some Spinoza.

Answer- Sorry you are correct I meant Panpsychism.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 11 October 2018 8:56:26 AM
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weeping willow , climbing rose, nodding flowers, forget-me-not , she-oak , London pride , pig face, sweet William .
Waratah means "beautiful" same as in Java and India.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 11 October 2018 5:37:54 PM
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