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Readying knives: the mortality of Australian prime ministers : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/8/2018

Turnbull had done himself no favours. He remains weak but more to the point, has appeared to be weak.

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As I type these words a spill has happened the PM won 48 to Dutton's 35? And will, with Abbot fanatical urging, likey to challenge again in September?

Which leaves the PM with no other choice but go to an early election to see if Joe public see eye to eye with Abbott and his conservatives/coalition wreckers? Who need the moderates and their policy platform to slide into power on their coattails?

Elections are always won in the moderate middle!

This internal division is crippling a once great party and making the country ungovernable, particularly when with a majority of one and everything needing to be negotiated through the Senate!

Time to end this farce and rank stupidity! Let the wreckers and the climate denialist face the judgement of the people during the height of one of the worst droughts in living memory and see how well the spin works for them and their coal-fired sponsors? And the pragmatism of the bush?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 August 2018 10:00:20 AM
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Go Tony. At least you have the countries interest at heart.Malcolm can join the Labour party in leasing this nation to ruin. The idiotic gw scammers and liars have been exposed. Unfortunatley with the dumbed down academics and getup people are to confused to know why we have gone from close to the cheapest power in the world to among the most expensive. Interesting how it seems to be nearly all the females backing Turnbull.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 10:11:38 AM
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Turnbull is most certainly weak, professionally and personally. However, his weakness hasn't prevented him from sending Australia down the road to nowhere. He has also turned the Liberal party into another Labor party; he has disenfranchised about half the population, and the other half are not going to vote for him in a fit.

The twenty four hour news cycle is beyond Turnbull. Politicians who cannot react and act within that period are doomed to failure. Turnbull is just another rich man, full of himself, with no skin in the struggle that he has inflicted on the rest of us.

There is no suitable replacement for back-stabber Turnbull, so it is curtains for him and his unbelievably wet colleagues in the Liberal party. We must accept that we will have a Green/Labor regime after the next election; and it won't be much different from what we have now.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 11:04:56 AM
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He has done the Liberals immense damage, the others that voted for him are being blindly to destruction at the next election.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 11:05:13 AM
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Dutton has lost a challenge against Turnbull 35 to 48. It has begun. Remember, Keating had to try twice against Hawke. Will there be another challenge, or will Turnbull have the guts to go for an election now, and give us the chance to have a say?
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 11:14:15 AM
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Well if you're right runner, which I seriously doubt! You'll surely have no problem with an early election and a very long information loaded campaign!?

And fought on proven facts! And independent fearless fact checking!

Rather than the supposition and stone age assumptions you are famous for?

What do you reckon? Put it to the people you believe are with you and your joyous convictions and let the chips fall where they may.

Or perhaps you'd like Malcolm to resign from the party effectively destroying their one member majority and #1/ Sit on the cross benches and vote with the opposition.

Or #2/ when the next election is called stand as an independent? Either way, he spikes Abbott's guns! And makes his replacement look totally ineffective, and then only if he waits for the axe to fall! And allow the next spill/leadership change?

Which might go off like a suicide bomb in the party room come next election and the judgement of the people!?

Which way will I vote? Don't know yet, but on pragmatic policies, not rubbish personalities! Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 August 2018 11:18:18 AM
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So Turnbull is still in the Lodge.

His sneaky underhanded attempt to lock in the Parris CO2 reduction has failed. In his arrogance & stupidity he thought he could con the whole Liberal party room, but a few stopped him.

He has proven himself yet again to be confidence trickster, but not a very good one.

The majority of Liberals have proven themselves more interested in holding their jobs for a few more months than doing the right thing for the country & removing this slime from Canberra.

How do you tell with these left leaning people, if they are simply idiots or con men? Do they really believe in the CO2 driven Global Warming scam, or are they gutless wonders, trying to use it to impose their vision on people with lies & deceit.

Is Turnbull another K RUDD, trying to gain high United Nations office by offering us as lambs for the slaughter? Is he stupid enough to believe the Global Warming scam? Or is he trying to hand his banker mates easy access to the billions the scam continues to rip out of ordinary folk? Who can know, but we do know, he doesn't have our interest at heart.

By leaving him there the majority of the Libs have proved they do not have the capacity to do the right thing by the country. Unless they change very soon they have just signed their death warrant.

Hopefully the Labor government to come, will have too much self interest in holding power to try this stupidity, when even the Europeans are too smart to do it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 12:00:52 PM
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yep Hasbeen. Its heartening that it seems finally people are starting to wake up to the foolishness and deceit of the warming scaremongers. I even heard a couple of calls on the abc(yeah no lie) of people expressing their concerns about the Paris con. Thank God that people can get news outside of the likes of abc and see for themseves a 3 year old boy receiving an acid attack in London and the chaos caused by muslim immigration. None of the orchestrators who bring such chaos are prepared to live in supburbs where it all takes place.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:25:00 PM
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A couple of surprising results connected to the earlier spill. And hat was a vote of no confidence was allowed and the overwhelming support Malcolm got when the house divided, A poll which the PM won by a very handsome margin!

And sent a signal and shivers up the spines of the would-be wreckers and tells them to expect more of the same if another PM is toppled by the born to rule power-hungry conservatives inside the coalition? Many of who are presumably in the crosshairs of the electors, just waiting with hypothetical baseball bats to show these wreckers who decides who leads the government.

Yes, I know the party decides but it's the voting public that gives it their seal of approval with each election.

The PM will not have to face the music again for a while and has time to consider his options and what's the best outcome for the party?

For mine that is an early election and a very long campaign to ensure Joe public who are aware of the disunity in the party and the principle troublemakers, might just exercise their options and remove the worst trainwreck examples. In any event, It couldn't make things much worse and give we the people the folk who pay these folk their salaries a chance to make a few of the troublemakers and wreckers redundant? And then unite under a leader who finally gets essentially party loyalty, not the rubbish we've been exposed to when the Former leader was found wanting and toppled, refused to go gracefully and allow a party to lick its wounds and putt on a united front for the public And still required!

No wreckers hired or wanted, Try the CES and the dole!!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 August 2018 6:09:57 PM
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The hard right of the LNP have done Turnbull no favours, no favours at all, since he became Prime Minister.It is surprising that he has lasted this long. Once he goes there will be no moderate to replace him and the LNP will slide slowly towards the far horizon on the right eventually to vanish out of sight, leaving the moderates to be welcomed by the ALP or the Greens.
His backbench have made good government impossible. Unfortunately, I live in one of the blue-ribbon LNP seats in Queensland, but I can always register my feelings in the Senate.
In the meantime, the atmospheric carbon dioxide levels continue to increase, drought strengthens its grip on Australia, bush fires devastate California, Europe and Eurasia swelter in record hot conditions while in Australia proponents of fossil fuels deafen each other with vapid logic and thread-bare rhetoric denying that climate change is occurring, saying that it is occurring but just like past occasions, or that human beings have no responsibility for it.
I cry for my country at times like this!
Posted by Brian of Buderim, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 9:17:42 PM
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