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Assisted suicide deal : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 9/7/2018

If assisted suicide becomes legal across the country, it will in part be because of the Australian Building and Construction Commission.

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Toni,

<<ya dozy bugger>>

You can't get away from fallacious reasoning. This time it's an ad hominem fallacy.

Instead of engaging in a reasonable conversation, you avoid that with the accusations of an ad hominem.

Bye.
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 12 July 2018 2:11:38 PM
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Dear OzSpen,

You seem to confuse between rights and inherent power:

"Rights" are a human societal invention - they are never inherent, but always granted by someone else who is more powerful, such as by a king to his subjects. You could argue that Jesus received rights from God (though that would portray Jesus as inherently weak and separate from God), but it would be nonsensical to speak of God having rights, for who possibly could be more powerful than Him to grant Him those "rights"?

«...Why don't we express greater outrage that God's rights are violated in Australia?»

Because when human (right-or-wrong) rights are violated, we feel the pain of the victim and want to help them, thus we become outraged. Nobody can violate God's power!, but if someone foolishly tried to, then we know that God Almighty is not a victim, nor does He need our help to fix the problem.

«Being atheists/agnostics who do not believe in God's existence will not save them from God's judgment»

Very true. But they will be judged for their sins, rather than for their beliefs or the lack thereof.

BTW, a belief that God exists, is either thoughtless or disrespectful of God. Existence is a mundane attribute which belongs to objects such as chairs and keyboards - surely one who looks up to God wouldn't attribute Him with such mundane qualities. Surely no intelligent person would expect salvation from objects!

«That's strange logic - killing someone through assisted suicide will save lives!»

It is one thing to decriminalise assisted-suicide and another to actually commit it and kill someone. I believe and explained why, if assisted-suicide is decriminalised, i.e. cease to be punished by the [secular] state (not by God), then the number of actual occurrences of suicides and assisted-suicides will in fact become smaller.

«Therefore, it is God's right to give and to take life»

Power, not right.

Now surely you wouldn't believe that a human being, try hard as they may, is able to challenge God's will and cause someone to die even one second earlier or one second later?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 13 July 2018 1:14:22 AM
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