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Abortion and the human person : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 9/7/2018

It seems impossible to refuse the conclusion that the foetus is a potentially self-aware human being and that it may not be disposed of as passive tissue or as animal life.

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If abortion was made illegal, if any woman who 'fell' pregnant was made to carry the foetus until birth, perhaps - as their part of the arrangement - the men responsible could automatically be required to raise the child. That may share the responsibility around a bit more.

Of course, many women would want to keep their child, so the financial costs of that decision could also be borne by the blokes responsible. A living wage could be paid to any woman by the father of their child until the child was eighteen.

Yep, that should solve the problem.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 9:09:45 AM
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I'm all in favour of Retrospective Abortion in some cases.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 9:55:04 AM
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Dear Peter,

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Here are some interesting facts and figures on abortion :

Legal restrictions on abortion do not affect its incidence. For example, the abortion rate is 29 in Africa, where abortion is illegal in many circumstances in most countries, and it is 28 in Europe, where abortion is generally permitted on broad grounds. The lowest rates in the world are in Western and Northern Europe, where abortion is accessible with few restrictions.

Here are the top 5 countries with the highest abortion rates :

http://top5ofanything.com/list/292947b6/Countries-with-the-Highest-Abortion-Rates-(all-countries)
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El Salvador (a staunch Catholic country) is the worst place in the world for women’s reproductive rights :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/el-salvador-miscarriage-abortion-strictest-laws-in-world-sonia-t-bora-a7584671.html
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« In the US, the risk of maternal death from abortion is 0.7 per 100,000 procedures, making abortion about 13 times safer for women than childbirth (8.8 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births).
While maternal mortality seldom results from safe abortions, unsafe abortions result in 70,000 deaths and 5 million disabilities worldwide, each year. Complications of unsafe abortion account for approximately an eighth of maternal mortalities worldwide. Secondary infertility caused by an unsafe abortion affects an estimated 24 million women. The rate of unsafe [illegal] abortions has increased from 44% to 49% between 1995 and 2008.

Countries with restrictive abortion laws have higher rates of unsafe [illegal] abortion and similar overall abortion rates compared to those where abortion is legal and available. For example, the 1996 legalization of abortion in South Africa had an immediate positive impact on the frequency of abortion-related complications, with abortion-related deaths dropping by more than 90%. Similar reductions in maternal mortality have been observed after other countries have liberalized their abortion laws, such as Romania and Nepal » :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion
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I can't help thinking that it is partly due the Church's intransigent and callous attitude to human tragedies such as abortion that the "fall of Christendom" is also attributable.

But then, I guess the Church is not human, is it ?

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 1:37:52 AM
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To Is Mise.

I'm against abortion to begin with, but retrospective abortions? The death penality for anyone should be something in the courts and only for a crime worth that degree of punishment. I don't know what retrospective abortions are but they sound like murdering your kids after they're born. Is that the jist of it? Or is it something like Court approved killing but without a crime worth a death penality kind of thing?
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 2:51:39 AM
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Religion or politics have separate our belief. It's like following two leaders that think about humanity and the other about morality. However, no matter which way we go killing is still killing. God lend this body and soul to us and no one has the right to take it. I cannot see abortion as a solution, its a destruction. Slowly and slowly our generation thinks no more about morality and maybe they will forget even humanity and that will be the time that we feared most that we raised our kids in a world that we created. If you are pregnant then let it be. You're the one who rush things so you must know the consequences you'll have. The idea of taking a precious baby's life is no good. Some girls reason is they cannot raise the kid in a wealthy life, then don't. Just let him/her live. If you had already aborted your baby think about what he became a football superstar? Or she became a doctor? Don't abort the child you can give birth to her/him an leave him in an orphanage house where he/she can see the beauty of the world. It is still a human being and making it live is the only thing you can do.
Posted by MandyMania29, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 6:34:50 PM
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Dear Mandymania,

When one aborts they may be killing another Einstein. They may also be killing another Hitler. In my opinion a woman has a right to terminate a pregnancy, and that right outweighs the right of someone else to interfere with her. It also outweighs any right of the foetus.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 8:49:19 PM
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