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Kim Jong-Unís survival strategy : Comments

By Felix Imonti, published 21/5/2018

North and South Korea had to convince Donald Trump that a small achievement is a grand victory.

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Hi Michi,

So, you're suggesting g that Japanese armies spent many years, 1905-1945, on the Asian mainland in China, and that incidentally, at least five million were killed ?

Perhaps this was just an isolated incident. Like the invasion of Formosa (Taiwan) in 1895; and the invasion of Korea in 1905; and the invasion of Manchuria in 1931; and the invasion of China proper in 1937. They too were merely isolated incidents.

Like the invasion of the Philippines; and the invasion of Indo-China and occupation of Thailand; and the invasion of the Malay Peninsula; and the invasion of the Dutch East Indies; and the invasion of Burma. All merely isolated incidents. Nothing to get all that worked up about. Only the military occupation of countries with about a quarter of the world's population.

There's not much we can do about the past, but perhaps we'll be able to move on from the past when it is truthfully acknowledged. Confession is good for the soul, Michi :)

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 25 May 2018 1:41:59 PM
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Loudmouth,

To move on from the past is inseparably connected with the past, and the past is not there for everyone to see and agree. It is to some or a large extent in our mind or in our interpretation.
Confession is good for the soul. But does one have to confess the crime one did not commit? I do not think so.

The Sino-Japanese war of 1894~95 and the Russo-Japanese war of 1904~05 were fought for national self-defense. National self-defense? Yes. Japan opened or, to be more exact, was made to open its closed door in 1868, namely in the coming height of European imperialism. At that time Great Britain and Czarist Russian were in rivalry in three parts of the world, the Balkans(which includes Crimea), Central Asia (which includes Persia or Iran), and Northern China (which includes North and South Korea). Crimea, Iran, and North Korea will perhaps call something to your mind.

China was obdurate and obtuse, but she had never been a pacifist country; she was imperial and imperialistic. If Japan had been situated geographically and geopolitically somewhere like Switzerland or Norway, she would have been saved from developing imperialistic policy. Japan had to wean the Korean Penisula from Chinese suzerainty.
Posted by Michi, Friday, 25 May 2018 11:01:36 PM
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Hi Michi,

"Japan had to wean the Korean Penisula from Chinese suzerainty."

So ........ Japan had (and still has ?) a divine right to invade/absorb/settle Korea ? Yes, i can partly understand why you may think so, since Japanese are, after all, Koreans, having migrated from the Korean Peninsula thousands of years ago as hunter-gatherers. Koreans are like your own, your fathers and mothers, your cousins.

Anyway, to get BTT, the Yanks may have invented a new chess move - call it the Libya Gambit: you threaten your opponent with all manner of destruction, to bomb the crap out of them, and demand that they submit, in ways similar to Libya's capitulation in 2003 - that they give up all their offensive weapons, and then their leader is butchered, a knife shoved up his backside, he is castrated, and then beaten to death with rocks.

Yeah, that might work. Pity about the cancellation. Will a meeting happen ? Or will alternative actions by China, Japan and South Korea sort out the issues and bring about a de-militarisation of the Peninsula at the same time as their contributions to major economic development in North Korea ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:16:30 AM
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Loudmouth,
"There isn't much we can do about the past, but we'll be able to move on from the past..."

There is much some can get from "the past." For instance, the Chinese communists arrived in Beijing as the new despotic ruler in October, 1944. Throughout the 1950s, China was full of vitriolic, berserk anti-American rhetoric and feelings, but not such anti-Japanism. In the 1960s they started, alongside the anti-American rhetoric, anti-Russian propaganda which was as berserk and belligerent but no anti-Japanese feelings. You might have thought that China might start war on the United States or Russian any time.
In the 1970s anti-Ameriacn phrases and feelings disappeared almost overnight; Nixon was coming. In the 1980s anti-Russian wording and feelings gradually died away.
Throughout the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s no anti-Japanese feelings, and on the contrary Beijing wanted to widen its economic and trade with Japan. They had the purpose of widening economic contact with Japan in rapprochement with the United States. Deng Xiaoping came to Japan in 1978 and showered a lot of admiration for Japan. The Chinese often said to the Japanese that Japan should increase her defense expenses.

The Tiananmen Square Protest of 1989 shocked the Chinese rulers so abysmally that they thought out making use of the past in order to defend their hold and grip on power from the deeply frustrated people; they started to say things like "The Japanese have not repented of their past," "They are remilitarising their country," "They killed three hundred thousand Chinese in Nanjing," "They kidnapped two hunderd women and girls and forced them to work in prostitution. The women and girls were all murdered when Japan was defeated so taht no traces of this igonomious crime would be left, etc."

History Wars: Japan-False Indictment of the Century (ISBN978-4-8191-1267-3) writes about the comfort women issue.
Some details by a Japanese expert are available on the Internet in Japanese and English at the address:

http://www.seisaku-center.net/sites/default/files/uploaded/TheComfortWomenIssueinSharperFocus.pdf.
Posted by Michi, Saturday, 26 May 2018 1:27:24 PM
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I sent a comment, American Humanism, on Chinese Comfort Women, amazon usa. I shall appreciate if you take time to read it.

Sonfa Oh's two books deal with Korean culture vis-a-vi Japan:
What makes Korea insults Japan and Getting Over It: Why Korea Needs to Stop Bashing Japan.
Oh is a South-Korean born, naturalised Japanese. She is teaching at a Japanese university.
Posted by Michi, Saturday, 26 May 2018 1:33:30 PM
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I am afraid I was not clear enough. Since the Sino-Japanese Peace Treaty of 1978 Japan gave a lot of grants, loans, technology and made investment. The Chinese economy picked up and grow. They do not say anything like that openly.
But the Chinese ruling elite was so shocked by the Tiananmen Square Protest in 1989 that they started their anti-Japanese campaign, so cantankerous and belligerent, so as to divert people's anger and frustration onto Japan.
The campaign has effective-by date like medecine. The CCP has come to know that they cannot tide over their difficulty only with anti-Japanese policy, and the Chinese economy is in great trouble, so they are softening it.

There were two events that most shocked the Chinese diplomatic circle in the 20th century, all before the Nanjing Incident of 1937. One was that Japanese delegates sat on equal terms on the victors' side of the table with the delegations from the European and American countries in the Beijing Peace Conference of 1901 after the Boxers' Rebellion. The other was that Japan had a permanent seat in the Council of the League of Nations, but that no such privilege was bestowed on China.

As for the Korean deep contempt of the Japanese, "the Chosun (Korean) Dynasty, which managed its country, Korea, by paying the utmost courtesy to China and following China as a model state, gradually incresed its confidence and regarded itself as having the same characteristics as China. Eventually the Chosun Dynasty came to regard itseld as a little China (the Little Middle Kingdom)," from Sonfa Oh's What makes Korea insult Japan.

"Anti-Japanese activists asked them (South Korean comfort women), "Isn't it true you were taken away by force?" and the form of this question offered them an unexpected way out. For the first time, they were able to connect with ordinary people in a way they had not expected. Until that point, society had looked coldly on them, and they had thought they had done something for which they had only themselves to blame," from Sonfa Oh's Getting Over It.
Posted by Michi, Saturday, 26 May 2018 8:24:26 PM
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