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The ease of accusation: the Skripal affair : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 23/3/2018

The second point the poisoning of traitors, defectors or the like only makes sense if Skripal had turned a newly rotten leaf.

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AC,

Prozac is not used for mild depression, it is used for major depression, manic depressives, OCD etc. Secondly Schizophrenia is hereditary and not a side effect of Prozac you silly toad.

Secondly, Novichuk is family of chemicals, and production from different facilities will have slightly different properties known as "fingerprints" which according to independent laboratories can be traced to the products made in Russia.

Now given that the Russians are the only ones with a motive, it is stretching the imagination to suggest that anyone else was involved.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 2 April 2018 3:10:20 PM
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//40 million dead doctors don't lie Toni//

Oh, so does everyone naturally live for ever if they're not subject to the meddling of big pharma, or just doctors? And how come people didn't used to live for ever before big pharma was invented?

It seems to me that if doctors are trying to poison us with medicine, our ever-increasing lifespans would suggest that they're not doing a very good job of it. In fact, they're doing such a poor job of it that they'd have more success if they just sat on their hands and let nature take its course.

//they are just salespeople for big pharma//

No they're not. Doctors work independently of pharmaceutical companies. They don't prescribe treatments on the basis of which pharmaceutical company will profit the most, they prescribe them on the basis of what is best for their patient.

That's why you won't find ethical and responsible doctors flogging unnecessary nutritional supplements; they'll just advise their patients that if they eat enough fruit and veg they won't need any pills or potions, saving said patients a lot of money.

//its just that both they and the people they treat don't realise it.//

But you're a really smart and stable genius with an IQ of 217, so you know what's really going on.

//Why do you think there's always a big box of sample packs laying around?//

There aren't in my doctor's office. Might I suggest that you stop frequenting disreputable quacks?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:26:10 PM
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Silly toad? Umm... Ok whatever
Don't argue with me it was from the ACTUAL inquest, read it for yourself.

http://ssristories.org/lindt-cafe-siege-inquest-findings-the-deaths-were-not-the-fault-of-police-news-com-au/

Russia the only one with a motive?
OMG so all we've for 16mths since Trump won and Hillary said "We'll all hang by the gallows" is this fake news Russia bs...

Your completely clueless;
Hope your planning on fighting this war your supporting starting?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:35:11 PM
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AC,

I am not stupid enough to be taken in by crank/conspiracy websites such as ssristories.org. If you don't want to be taken as a nutjob, try quoting reliable websites.

Given your feeble use of English, I will simply assume that you don't know better and give your rantings their due consideration.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 2 April 2018 8:00:59 PM
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Hi Toni,
You should stop taking everything I say literally and learn to read between the lines, I'm not saying doctors are deliberately killing their patients, nor am I saying that doctors are directly employed by pharmaceutical companies.
On the issue of anti-depressants there's no question of increased rates of suicide especially among younger people, as well as side effects of violent and irrational behaviour.
I cant deny what seems to be a push to label everything from anxiety of school exams and feeling confused and insecure about deliberately created gender issues as legitimate mental illness, that require medication.
In relation to those drugs, I think there is a case to argue that doctors are in fact wittingly harming their patients.

Shadow Minister,
Sometimes when I read a comment I have to translate it.
"I am not stupid enough to be taken in by crank/conspiracy websites such as ssristories.org. If you don't want to be taken as a nutjob, try quoting reliable websites."

How that reads to me:
"I am not intelligent enough to seek out alternative information and become better informed, nor can I discern various sources of information for myself. I'm a useful idiot that believes everything the corporate media tells me, and as such I'm not expected to be smart enough to know any better."

If you hadn't been conditioned to be petrified of 'fake news', you might've clicked the link and found that it backlinks to an original news.com.au article.
And if you were really possessed any kind wisdom worth anything you'd have gone to the government website and found the .pdf inquest to corroborate or refute what I said as actual fact.

But you're lazy, and trade in narrative and conjecture (effectively total bs) instead, and you just advertised it to everyone.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 11:33:48 AM
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//On the issue of anti-depressants there's no question of increased rates of suicide especially among younger people//

Have you considered the possibility that people who take antidepressants have higher rates of suicide because they suffer from depression, and not because of the medication?

//I cant deny what seems to be a push to label everything from anxiety of school exams and feeling confused and insecure about deliberately created gender issues as legitimate mental illness, that require medication.//

That is a separate issue. Pathologising normal human emotions is a problem, but it doesn't mean that antidepressants aren't beneficial to those suffering from depression.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:08:59 PM
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