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Dutton ventures where fools fear to tread : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 19/3/2018

As a young diplomat posted to South Africa at the height of Apartheid, 1976/79, I chose to assist those opposing the regime.

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It is not “white right wing extremists” who are urging the shooting and throat-cutting of whites; nor is it they who are threatening to steal “farm land without compensation. The people doing these things, plus murdering, assaulting and torturing, are black racists.

And, was it normal for a “young diplomat” representing a foreign country in SA to run interference and help one section of the population against the government? Perhaps that's just a memory thing with the ageing Haigh. If he had done such a thing, he stood to be expelled.

It is The Left wing that “of Australian politics” that “ is destructive, negative, cruel and shallow; it has brought nothing of value to the country.” And it is not the Right wing or anything else that has made Haigh sick. He has always been that way.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 19 March 2018 9:32:34 AM
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I think Bruce might have got his left and right mixed up. If that's true what you did when you were a diplomat in SA it was disgraceful behavior on your part, you were sent there and paid to do a job, you were supposed to be a diplomat, and that means you are not supposed to get involved or take sides in local affairs. You are now stating that Mr Dutton is interfering in another country's business, that is a double standard. Also, what is the correlation between white farmers being murdered on land that they own where they have lived for decades and illegal arrivals crossing Australia's Borders. Its time Bruce you retired your pen, Peter Dutton is doing his best for Australia.
Posted by MAREELORRAINE, Monday, 19 March 2018 9:56:24 AM
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I wonder if it is our entire diplomatic service, or just this bloke who is so far left, & anti Australian.

I find it painful to know that we are paying this bloke a very high pension, & all the thanks for it is these anti Oz rants.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 19 March 2018 11:01:51 AM
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we know Bruce your judegement about the possibility of Abbott stopping the boats was 100% wrong. I suspect you would support Isis fighters returning to Australia ahead of hard working white South African farmers coming here. You might know a few activist from the 1980's but having a daughter in law from South Africa and many black and white friends from SA, it is obvious that whites are becoming an endangered species. Whites are particularly targeted. Almost everyone among the thousands of South Africans here have lost family members or friends. Your bigotry is amazing.
Posted by runner, Monday, 19 March 2018 12:09:36 PM
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Hasbeen,

I read a report saying that DEFAT is now certainly staffed by Left wing culture warriors, more interested in trendy Marxist values than they are in the well being and security of Australia. Then there's the Bishop woman overseeing it.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 19 March 2018 12:25:25 PM
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'I read a report saying that DEFAT is now certainly staffed by Left wing culture warriors,'

thats why we need the swamp drained ttbn. Just look at the abc who prefer to allow whites to be called ' c nts' rather than care for abused aboriginal children. Identity politics started by the marxist and strongly promoted by the abc is putried. And to think they are paid huge salaries to promote it.
Posted by runner, Monday, 19 March 2018 12:34:06 PM
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"And, was it normal for a “young diplomat” representing a foreign country in SA to run interference and help one section of the population against the government? Perhaps that's just a memory thing with the ageing Haigh. If he had done such a thing, he stood to be expelled." And Bruce Haigh appears to have no problem with the SA Govt expelling white landholders from their farms without compensation. He does appear hypocritical, to say the least.
Posted by Raycom, Monday, 19 March 2018 2:09:39 PM
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South Africa is almost on the "Don't go there. Its too dangerous" list.

Australian tourists considering South Africa should reconsider. I know of too many who've been mugged at gunpoint.

JUST PART of DFAT's Smartraveller advises http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/africa/southern/Pages/south_africa.aspx :

"Exercise a high degree of caution because of the high level of serious crime. Pay close attention to your personal security at all times. Monitor media and other sources of information about possible new security risks.

There is a threat of terrorism in South Africa. Attacks could be indiscriminate, including in places visited by foreigners such as shopping centres. See Safety and security.

...The frequency of most types of crime is increasing. Robberies are frequently reported on the roads and at shopping centres. Visitors to shopping malls should remain vigilant at all times. See Safety and security.

...Avoid large gatherings and demonstrations as they can quickly turn violent. See Safety and Security.

...The rate of HIV/AIDS infection in South Africa is very high. Exercise precautions with activities exposing you to risk of infection. Victims of violent crime, including rape, should seek immediate medical assistance. See Health."

See the WHOLE SMARTRAVELLER ON SOUTH AFRICA ENTRY at http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/africa/southern/Pages/south_africa.aspx

For those who want to say "Oh! Look at that lion or zebra" its much safer and cheaper to visit Dubbo Zoo instead http://taronga.org.au/taronga-western-plains-zoo?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt5_0iMf32QIVCCQrCh0xWwDAEAAYASAAEgJYBPD_BwE
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 19 March 2018 2:44:21 PM
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Bruce,
I am sure South Africa will eventually take the white farmers' land to right past wrongs just as you desire. They have a precedent in Zimbabwe.

Like Zimbabwe, the South African Government will turn South Africa into the wonderful democratic prosperous country that Zimbzbwe is today.

Then you will be happy.

And all those nasty white red-necks will be dead.
Posted by Old Man, Monday, 19 March 2018 2:46:16 PM
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Do the bkack South Africans really have a right to white land in South Africa.

I was listening to a white South African, give a different historical account of that.

She said the white South Africans have been there for 8 generations. They were there when the Zulus swept through the country ethnically cleansing other black tribes.
Also, after Mugabee took power when Britain pulled out of Africa, he also ethnically cleansed another black tribe.

Seemes the blacks have been guilty of more savagery and murderous ethnic cleansing of blacks in Africa than the whites.
But an honest acoount òf Black African history would go against the propaganda. the blacks prefer and the white twits like Brice Haigh believe.

Once again the western school's failure to teach certain aspects of history, because it goes against their anti-white ideology and the foreign students they make billions in profits from, has led to leftist fools like Haigh being able to be told any narrative by black troublemakers holding themselves up as pure as snow freedom fighters
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 19 March 2018 7:04:02 PM
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Also, if it was Rohingha farmers being targeted and murdered in South Africa,
the Western media would have had no end of reports and pictures of it on the news.

And Julie Bishop wouldnt be getting up there saying it would be discrimination to help them.

I would ask Julie Bishop why are they discriminating against innocent white children
being nailed to tables(jesus) by blacks and raped. Not too much world outrage there.
The children on Nauru never,experienced anything that horrific.
Or the very little white girl who had her mouth cut up into her cheeks in a
grotesque smile. Imagine the outrage of the Western and world media if whites in South Africa were doing that to blacks. White people have every bit as much right to protection from violent targeting as any other group.
The fact that Julie Bishop can stand up there and say it is discriminatory to help them is
a prime example of what has gone wrong with the West and European countries.

And it is the reason I never liked all this taking of masses of refugees, because I always knew that the same compassion and help would never be given to the white race by these other ethnic groups in other countries.
The trouble is our politicians wont help other white people being persecuted in the world either. Shame on them.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 19 March 2018 7:27:18 PM
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U r so right Cherful and yet people keep voting for the swamp.
Posted by runner, Monday, 19 March 2018 9:00:09 PM
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Hi Bruce.

I was once chaffing at the bit to volunteer to fight in Vietnam. But because I do have a vestigial brain, I decided to read up on the war before I joined up. I read books about the war in Vietnam written by journalists, politicians, historians, and most important of all, ordinary soldiers. The more I read, the more I was convinced that the war was a tragic blunder. So I became an anti war activist. I think that most people today would agree that the Vietnam war was a horrible mistake.

After the fall of Saigon, I looked around for another "cause" to Save The World and the most obvious one was apartheid and racism. I became an anti apartheid activist. But just as in the Vietnam war, I felt compelled to read up on everything I could about South Africa, apartheid, and colonialism. The more I read, the more I was convinced that white minority rule in Africa, and apartheid, was absolutely correct.

The main reasons were. Those who went on and on about inequality and racism were the biggest snobs around, who looked down their collective noses at me and my housing commission roots. The second reason, was because the only excuse that these people could present for world wide black dysfunction as to blame the white race, my race, for everything. And that excuse, my dear Bruce, is racism. The third, was because it is entirely self evident that black majority rule simply leads back to anarchy and barbarism.

I don't blame you for being the young idealist that I once was, Bruce. But you should have grown out of that by now. The reason why you did not is, I presume, because you still live in a middle class lefty bubble where your fashionable liberal views became inbred. I live in the real world, Bruce, where I can stand back and see with my own eyes the slow self suicide of European civilisation because too many people still think like you do.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 4:43:31 AM
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//The more I read, the more I was convinced that white minority rule in Africa, and apartheid, was absolutely correct... it is entirely self evident that black majority rule simply leads back to anarchy and barbarism.//

OK fellas, that's enough rallying for today. Time to draw the cake raffle then go take a hot shower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcSaeJnwPy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c65T90Q3OZ8
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 7:38:55 AM
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Well said LEGO

1..And might I add, Brucey is paid by Fairfax Media to stir up the likes of us.

2..Secondly, LEGO regarding your aforesaid "vestigial brain"

This has forced me to consult a Pell-like infallible source:

"In the context of human evolution, human vestigiality involves those traits (such as organs or behaviors) occurring in humans that have lost all or most of their original function through evolution. ...

Many human characteristics are also vestigial in OTHER PRIMATES and related animals."

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Enough said.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 9:04:44 AM
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Dear Tony Lavis. If you disagree with my position, then try to think up a rational and logical counter argument. Simply suggesting that I am conforming to whatever racist stereotype you have of a Southern white US KKK member is a poor substitute for that.

Could I suggest that there are two opposing racist theories here? The first one, is that white people are the scum of the Earth who are responsible for everything that ever went wrong with every dysfunctional ethnicity on the planet. This argument, rather ironically, is evidenced by Bruce Haigh's article, which seems to suggest that white South Africans should not be given sanctuary in Australia because they are all horrible racists. Such an argument is racist in itself. It negatively stereotypes an entire ethnicity and judges them unfit for refugee status. But you see in the Quixotic land of virtue signalling that you inhabit, it is perfectly acceptable for so called "anti racists" to be very racist towards white people. And this plain contradiction just goes "whoosh" right over your head without you even being aware of it.

The second theory, is that black African people in general have much lower intelligence than that of whites or Asians (in general) and that they have a genetic predisposition towards violent behaviour at a much higher incidence than among other ethnicities.

That is why every single black run African society on planet Earth is, to quote President Trump, a "sheethole." And that goes for every aboriginal community in Australia where "self determination" has become a euphemism for anarchy. So much so, that the Australian government under John Howard had to enact the "intervention" to restore some semblance of law and order in aboriginal communities.

Now we have the Sudanese gangs in Melbourne creating anarchy and I think it is about time you admitted that your racial equality belief could do with some rethink. I know what I have written is illegal, but that simply reinforces my view that the concept of racial equality is so logically bankrupt that opposing views must be legally suppressed
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 2:12:48 AM
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it would hurt Toni and every other regressive far to much to admit the progress in the West came largely by its Judeo Christian influence. They stick their heads in the sand because it does not fit their narrative.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 4:59:20 PM
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//Dear Tony Lavis//

Who's Tony Lavis?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 5:40:29 PM
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Oh, I get it. Tony Lavis is Bruce Haigh.

Dear Bruce, if you are so opposed to racism, why did you pen an article that was racist towards white people? If you really are not racist, surely your article would have spoken of how all people of all races, ethnicities and belief systems were welcome as refugees into Australia, including white South Africans. But you did not. Your article specifically criticised Dutton for his concern about white South African refugees.

Your article implied that white South Africans should be excluded because they are racists. Even if that was true, it is still racist to make negative generalisations about an entire ethnic group of people that label them with a negative stereotype.

Now can you see why I, as a former anti racist, began to doubt the logic of the whole so called "anti racist" philosophy? You can't go on and on about racism and then exhibit the most blatant racism towards my race.

Could I suggest that the reason for your clear double standard is because of a few factors? The first is, that South Africa is turning into a failed state just like every other black African country, just as the "racists" such myself predicted it would. Once again the quixotic socialist dream of racial equality is turning into another nightmare and the socialist socialite, humanitarian, "angry young men" just can't bring themselves to admit that they were wrong again? And the "racists" that they universally condemned as stupid and ignorant were right all along?

Your caste of lefty liberals made the mistake of connecting anti racism with intelligence, and racism with ignorance and stupidity. Advocating anti racism not only virtue signalled, it was a public exhibition that displayed how intelligent you are. So it became a significant factor in your own self esteem. But now that multiculturalism has failed and you are being proven wrong, your entire self esteem is under threat. You no longer look smart, you are looking stupid. Hence the mental gymnastics and the refusal to recognise your own double standards.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 22 March 2018 4:31:40 AM
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//Tony Lavis is Bruce Haigh.//

Oh. Is he? That doesn't sound like it makes much sense. Surely Bruce Haigh is Bruce Haigh and Tony Lavis, whoever he may be, is Tony Lavis?

At any rate, there must be something wrong with my computer or something, because I can't see any posts from Tony Lavis. I don't suppose it matters that much, I'm just curious. Since we share the same last name, we might be related or something.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 22 March 2018 7:39:44 AM
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If whites do not defend whites .
Who does Bruce Haig think will?
South African blacks have seen their currency drop from $1 AUD to 1 Rand .Down to $.09 AUD to 1 Rand since blacks ran South Africa.
Who is laughing now.
As for the South African murder 35 per 100,000.
Australia and the rest of the civilised world less than one per 100,000.
Who is laughing now.
I visited South Africa during Aparteid and was surprise at how many black south Africans lived in nice homes and drove around in Mercedes.
Nothing like lefty propaganda to change historical facts.
Posted by BROCK, Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:27:06 PM
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Thank you Runner.
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 22 March 2018 10:00:02 PM
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