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The Gippsland Lakes debacle : Comments

By Anthony Amis, published 8/3/2018

In 2015 the Victorian Auditor-General delivered a damning report on the mismanagement of Victoria's 10 Ramsar-listed wetlands.

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Come off the grass JF Aus. The big problem with telling porkies by inference is that there will be some people who know the facts, & can show up your fabrications for what they are.

You trying to suggest that fish from the Gippsland Lakes swim up to the tropics to feed the islanders. What utter garbage.

Then you bemoan the fact that that islanders are eating rice, as if that is caused by a lack of fish, & attempting to tie that to the Gippsland lakes. Again utter garbage. Perhaps you haven't noticed this type of misrepresenting the truth is now recognised as lies, perhaps the reason for the reduction of green votes.

The fact is islanders, just like us are lazy. Rice is their McDonalds, quick & easy.

I spent quite a bit of time in the islands, & know many well. I was once offered a meal on one in about 1976. Rice with Curry paste for main course, & rice with powdered milk & sugar for desert.

This was on Nugerria atoll, with it's 3000 nautical square miles of lagoon, & 90 nautical miles of reef, 200 nautical miles from the nearest town. It has enough fish to provide a cannery, as well as feed it's 200 people. However fishing is work, & requires organisation & planning.

No bait shop, so you first have to net some bait fish. Then you have to canoe to a good entrance channel, where the blue runners, their favourite fish, are likely to gather. No refrigeration, so you have to do it all again tomorrow, or just throw some rice in a pot. This is of course the fault of the people of the Gippsland Lakes, if we are silly enough to believe your ranting.

Do try to be more truthful in your posts, if you want to be taken seriously.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 9 March 2018 2:07:26 PM
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Hasbeen,

You have now put youself in serious trouble. LOL.
Because of your stupid claims I am going to enjoy knocking your legs out from under you, as soon as I get time out from travelling.
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 9 March 2018 4:00:08 PM
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JF Aus's childish response to Hasbeen (I've got ya now but I ain't got time) is the icing on the cake. Here's the cake: The Lakes are supposedly stuffed cos there's "Marine species invasion. Shore Crab; sharks; stingray; squid; starfish; marine oysters etc." but the Lakes aren't "producing enough small fish to feed ocean fish". What are the sharks etc. eating? don't they live in the ocean too? You can't have your cake and eat it!
Posted by Little, Friday, 9 March 2018 4:27:56 PM
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Hasbeen,

I challenge you to show the facts and name the people to prove the fabrication you claim. You cannot do that because I have fabricated nothing. But try. No excuses.

Bass Strait used to be a significant marine animal feeding ground.
Pacific tuna migrate from one feeding ground to another. Does anyone have evidence otherwise?

By 1982 Western Port Bay Victoria had lost 100 out of 150 square kilometers of seagrass.

Scientific studies have revealed 400 square metres of seagrass can support 2,000 tonnes of fish per annum (Dept Environment Study Notes).
Bass Strait had a significant squid fishery that collapsed.

Lakes Entrance Processors Ltd was Australia's most diversified fish processing plant. The manager caught me inside the broken fence as I photographed a massive trawl net. He showed me inside the building and told me the plant had closed forever due lack of the resource. He showed me the huge dryer drum for turning pilchard and anchovy into fishmeal.
I had alteady read literature stating initial scientific estimates put the areas catch at 200,000 tonnes per annum, but that was soon reduced to 100,000 tonnes.
The manager told me they never even reached 10,000 tonnes.

Think.
There used to be a Shearwater mutton bird population estimated at 100 million, now estimated at 17 million.
Imagine 50 million birds unable to find food at northern feeding grounds and arriving and nearly eating out Bass Strait.
Same with millions of tuna, food gone from say Moreton Bay and Sydney and Jervis Bay offshore feeding grounds, impact on another, leaving not much for the processing plant.

For the past 10 years I have been living 6 months a year on one Pacific island. Last week I watched kids eating rice only. I used to see baitfish chased out of the water by bigger fish but not anymore. The village people used to eat fish every day but not anymore. Now its a 20 mile canoe trip to scrounge reject fish from ocean seine net boats.
I live there.

Fish populations have changed since the 1970's, and since 10 years ago.
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 9 March 2018 11:46:42 PM
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What a rant, & not a word about islanders eating rice. You do appear to have dropped the fairy story suggestion that Gippsland lakes fish swim up to the tropic islands at least.

Sounds like we need to cull more of those damn mutton birds. They were once an economic useful resource, but no more. Obviously their population has exploded, & is way excessive, now we no longer harvest them.

Typical stupidity in protecting something to the detriment of many others.

Typical greeny result, of never thinking anything through to it's obvious, & possible conclusions.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:30:02 AM
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Hasbeen,
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What do you mean not a word about islanders eating rice?
Read my second last paragraph above.
I was there and watched it happening because fish are no longer available daily as they used to be.

Think, Hasbeen.
Tuna from Pacific waters migrate including from Coral Sea to Bass Strait waters, to feed.

Fish don't know about names of places such as Bass Strait, to migratory tuna it's all one big place.

Purposely ignoring or twisting or making fun about the plight of these kids is an insult to humanity and is virtual child abuse.

I am not a greenie, kill all Gippsland Lakes if you want, but why ignore seafood dependent islanders and livelihood of our pro and amateur fishing communities?
Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 11 March 2018 3:59:48 AM
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