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The Forum > Article Comments > Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef > Comments

Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef : Comments

By Peter Ridd, published 12/2/2018

The reef is supposedly almost dead from the combined effects of a warming climate, nutrient pollution from Australian farms, and smothering sediment from offshore dredging.

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Agro: even if there is a sustained period of low magnetic activity

Yes , the eleven year cycle. Still the Earth is closer to the Sun at the moment because of the Earths Maximum 152.6 km & Minimum of 147.4 km. The Earth is nearing the Minimum. So it will get hotter for a while yet, Also the Tilt of the Earth is declining towards the Minimum. It's currently at 23.44 degrees but there is also the Wobble to take into account, if the Summer & Winter wobble takes December closer in the Nth. Hemisphere it get colder in the North & hotter in the Sth. Hemisphere in Summer. Warmer Summers the Nth. & colder Winters in the South on the way around. Nothing to do with CO2.

Tea on the Table, bye.

the Earth won't cool that much because of all the extra carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 15 February 2018 5:50:11 PM
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Agronomist says” Universities lose money on research grants”.
This must almost be your most stupid statement yet, and that is saying something, considering your record. That would explain why they fight so hard for grants, so that they can fulfil their aim to lose money.
You also say, Agronomist:” Ridd has a personal stake in downplaying the impact of human activities on the reef, as it brings in his consultancies. “
Do you have a source for that assertion, or did you fabricate it yourself. It is the standard fraud-backer’s tactic, to make up lies about an honest scientist, so please let us have the source.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:05:31 PM
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Agro: even if there is a sustained period of low magnetic activity

Yes , the eleven year cycle. Still the Earth is closer to the Sun at the moment because of the Earths Maximum 152.6 km & Minimum of 147.4 km. The Earth is nearing the Minimum. So it will get hotter for a while yet, Also the Tilt of the Earth is declining towards the Minimum. It's currently at 23.44 degrees but there is also the Wobble to take into account, if the Summer & Winter wobble takes December closer in the Nth. Hemisphere, it get colder in the North & hotter in the Sth. Hemisphere in Summer. Warmer Summers the Nth. & colder Winters in the South on the way around. The difference being 46.88 degrees or 426067 km.

If a difference of 426067 km makes a Temperature change of about 40 degrees, between Summer & Winter in the Nth. Hemisphere think what a difference of 2.6 million km’s will do on Earths 410100 year travel around the Perion. Sumtin’ like dat. Anyway it’s explained much better here.

https://phys.org/news/2017-01-earth-orbital-variations-sea-ice.html. Earth's orbital variations and sea ice synch glacial periods.
Milankovitch Cycles - Climatica http://climatica.org.uk/climate-science-information/long-term-climate-change-milankovitch-cycles

Agro: the Earth won't cool that much because of all the extra carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere.

Any extra CO2 will be absorbed by the extra greening in areas that are now too cold & all will come back into equilibrium. Da dah
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:45:50 PM
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*….Any extra CO2 will be absorbed by the extra greening in areas that are now too cold & all will come back into equilibrium. Da dah…*

AND reabsorbed into the ocean, reducing the Ph in the process. (Ocean acidification).
Coral has a very narrow margin in the Ph scale to regrow.
This could be easily explained by a coral biologist; which is what PR isn't.

The GBR will die out. That's also part of the process of climate change, which includes ocean acidification from CO2 reabsorption.

Extinct coral reefs abound, as evidence of this evolutionary process.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 16 February 2018 7:03:59 AM
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Diver Dan,

Where can I find "extinct coral reefs" you refer to? Google shows nothing about extinct coral reefs.

As for ocean acidification, why is calcite based coccolithaphore algae thriving in healthy unprecdented massive blooms?
Why are the microscopic calcium bases of that algae not dissolving due to acid
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 16 February 2018 11:29:42 AM
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You always were a dill, Leo Lane.

Research grants are about reputation, not profits. There is no profit to be made out of a research grant (unless it is a consultancy). The grant money has to be spent on the project or given back.

Consultancies on the other hand have a profit component built in. How much varies, but 25% for the University and 35% for the researcher is not uncommon.

"Do you have a source for that assertion, or did you fabricate it yourself"

Peter Ridd stated it on his website.

https://research.jcu.edu.au/portfolio/peter.ridd/

"Peter Ridd raises almost all of his research funds from the profits of consultancy work which is usually associated with monitoring of marine dredging operation"
Posted by Agronomist, Friday, 16 February 2018 12:41:07 PM
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