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The Forum > Article Comments > Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef > Comments

Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef : Comments

By Peter Ridd, published 12/2/2018

The reef is supposedly almost dead from the combined effects of a warming climate, nutrient pollution from Australian farms, and smothering sediment from offshore dredging.

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If you get a chance watch today's Press Club presentation (14/2/'18) by Professor Emma Johnson in relation to to science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
Posted by ant, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:51:46 PM
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Diver Dan says:I don't think climate change is in debate. What is debatable is the cause!

Who said it was, in the normal meanng of the word in English.
You cannot be unaware, Diver, that the leading climate fraud promoter, the IPCC, tampered with the meaning of the phrase, so it is now understood to mean human caused climate change.
There is no dispute, just a one sided, baseless assertion by the fraud promoters that global warming is human caused. Honest competent scientists have demolished the pseudo-science said to support the fraudulent assertion of human causation, and there is no basis for the assertion that humans have any measurable effect on climate.
If you know of any such science, Diver, please inform us.
Otherwise keep your comments to topics of which you have an inkling of knowledge
The fraud promoters, having no science, are limited to personal attacks on the competent scientists who expose them, as in this current scurrilous and dishonest attack on Peter by the JCU fraud promoters.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 2:13:38 PM
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Leo Lane.

Demonstrate to me how we can have something approaching eight billion humans on this small planet, and not have an effect on climate change.

Humans are in plague proportions.

Then we have the Chinese producing unbreathable air, in their mad rush for riches.

But in the face of the obvious, no I'm not a climate scientist, but I observe that the polar caps are melting, the Ph of the ocean is reducing towards the acid end, the oceans are over fished, ocean pollution is problematic.
Coral reefs globally are stressed from ocean water temperature increases, as reported by coral biologists.

And to cap it off, I don't have a concern for the welfare and career path of this character Peter Ridd, (who coincidentally is not a coral biologist, he's a physicist. A knowledge of corals is not his department). Nor the uni who employ him.

Quite frankly, if he wishes to wag the dog by the tail, and the uni sack him for it, good!
Plenty of experienced and highly educated employees of unis have walked out their door when they started wearing boots that were too big for themselves, that's not new!

So no, I can't say climate change is driven by irresponsible human endeavours or not, and I said that early in the piece.
But a better question for you would be, how could it not be
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 9:42:21 PM
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Diver Dan,we all know that you have taken the bait, & swallowed the fear generated by the Socialist left Greenies. That's OK. We understand where you are coming from.

Please read my earlier post that should explain things for you.

The Reef has been waning back & forth, up & down for the last 112 million years or so when Australia has entered the Tropics (see Continental Drift) after breaking off from Sth. Africa, Antarctica & India. The Reef is relatively new, only about 12 million years old. Just wait until we bang into China in 160 million years time. The reef would have been swallowed up by then I suppose.

It's unlikely Humans will be around by then anyway.

Relax son, Let the poison take effect.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:02:37 PM
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Diver Dan says: no, I can't say climate change is driven by irresponsible human endeavours or not, and I said that early in the piece.
But a better question for you would be, how could it not be

You have summed it up, Dan.
You do not know, but will ask a stupid question based on your ignorance anyway.
You are not concerned that an honest scientist is being victimised by his dishonest employer, whose greed makes it a climate fraud promoter.
If you knew anything about the topic you would know that the CO2 alleged to do the warming is supplied 97% by nature, and 3% by man. The human effect is not measurable, no doubt because it is so small, like your knowledge of the topic.
You need not apologise for your ignorance, just for your gall in posting your rubbish on the thread, when you were aware of your ignorance.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 11:31:47 PM
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Well said Leo.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 15 February 2018 8:39:47 AM
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