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How the Turnbull government stole Christmas : Comments

By Graeme McLeay, published 27/12/2017

The Turnbull Government may have hoped releasing Australiaís latest greenhouse gas emissions together with the 2017 Climate Reportwould pass unnoticed.

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mhaze

You would realise that big Corporations such as ExxonMobil will do everything possible to stall legal action. The tobacco industry was able to quash adverse science for a considerable time.

The Texan judge acknowledged that ExxonMobil agreed with CO2 being a greenhouse gas.
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 7:51:57 PM
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mhaze

You stated "... it doesn't show the "worst" hurricanes, it shows the hurricanes that caused the biggest blackouts."

Nobody has stated that there has not been bad weather in the past; but, even if you are right about 1881 and 1938, there has not been a spate of major hurricanes as experienced in recent times. You wrote about blackouts, ignoring the catastrophic damage to houses, businesses, and other infra-structure; for example, there are still areas of New Orleans that have not been rebuilt after hurricane Katrina.

Harvey is said to be worst storm ever to hit Texas, there is commentary about FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) not coping. A complaint also made in relation to Puerto Rico of poor management (below) .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fema-director-says-harvey-is-probably-the-worst-disaster-in-texas-history/2017/08/27/ef01600a-8b3f-11e7-8df5-c2e5cf46c1e2_story.html?deferJs=true&outputType=default-article&utm_term=.7d4765dd31b8&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-hse%252Bnational&wpmk=1

The Governor of Peurto Rico at first was supportive of Trump; now as reconstruction is taking so long he is becoming very critical. FEMA, is an Agency set up to deal with natural disasters.
There is a strong contrast between how Opal was dealt with in 1995, and Trump's response to Maria in 2017. Prior to Opal hitting land, supplies and personnel had been moved into place. Not so, with Maria, some time after the storm aid began to move in.

Where there is a slow, but sure devastation to ultimately happen, FEMA does not operate:

http://www.npr.org/2017/12/20/571914718/for-alaskan-coastal-village-erosion-hits-home?utm_content=bufferbfed4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The question is why is that erosion taking place at Newtok and other townships on the Alaskan Coast?

Since 1st June 2017 there have been 58 films made in the series Climate & Extreme Weather News, a Youtube film channel. Those films display extreme flooding, mud slides, and huge wild fires where terrible damage is done and people are killed.

Blackouts don't rate in comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmEgRmL5aRA
Posted by ant, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 7:07:43 AM
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ant.

"You would realise that big Corporations such as ExxonMobil will do everything possible to stall legal action."

When you first started to rave about this almost two years ago I predicted then that, when nothing came of it you'd see that as evidence of the vast conspiracy.

You are soooooo predictable.

In your mind this is how it goes: if Exxon is charged, its proof of their guilt. If Exxon isn't charged its proof of their guilt.

Struth!

"there has not been a spate of major hurricanes as experienced in recent times."

That's arrant rubbish. Wrong in the most extreme sense of the word. Please provide evidence for this ridiculous claim.

Of coarse, I won't expect you to provide such evidence. I'll just add it to the list of all the other made-up assertions that you've made and never supported with evidence.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:42:16 AM
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mhaze

Your request:

"Please provide evidence for this ridiculous claim."

"WASHINGTON ó Itís not just this year. The monster hurricanes Harvey, Irma, Maria, Jose and Lee that have raged across the Atlantic are contributing to what appears to be the most active period for major storms on record.

And the busiest part of hurricane season isnít even over.
An analysis of 167 years of federal storm data by The Associated Press found that no 30-year period in history has seen this many major hurricanes, this many days of those whoppers spinning in the Atlantic, or this much overall energy generated by those powerful storms."

From:

https://globalnews.ca/news/3787686/hurricanes-season-atlantic/

Argue with Associated Press, if you believe this to be wrong.
Posted by ant, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 11:01:04 AM
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ahh, that well known climate expert Associated Press.

Over the past decade hurricane activity has been at an historic low. I don't recall them writing about that. But one bad season and the we're-all-gunna-die crowd are out in force.

But their 'research' is trickery, designed to fool those who want to be fooled, people like ant.

What they did was to pretend rigour by looking at the data for not just land-fall storms but all identified storms. The problem there is that, prior to 1970 or so, our ability to notice storms in mid-ocean that didn't make land-fall was limited. That means there is a bias in the data that showing more recent storms. That's why people seeking the truth rather than the propaganda don't use this type of analysis.

AP even acknowledges this...and then proceeds to do it anyway.

And the usual fools fall for it...again.

Try this for a more rigorous analysis....

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/sotc/tropical-cyclones/2015/annual/NAT_ace_2015.png

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Here's an interesting thing to ponder:

Currently there is a massive cold-wave over the US. But the we're-all-gunna-die crowd are anxious to point out that this means nothing. Its just the weather, not the climate. But then there is one season of higher hurricane activity and suddenly they are demanding to know why those evil deniers want to point out its just the weather and not the climate.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 12:39:35 PM
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Warmist are getting more and more desperate to support very failed narrative.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 1:06:57 PM
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