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Sowing noxious seeds : Comments

By Beverly Holmes-Brown, published 30/11/2017

When the British government transported criminals and political enemies to this far-off land their plan was kinder than ours.

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Wow! Self-hatred at its most extreme.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:06:12 AM
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Bev Holmes-Brown, I am afraid that in the eyes of both our major political parties as well as the media, you are a voice crying in the wilderness and no politcal candidate has the guts to stand up and say "enough is enough"

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:06:48 AM
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I was thinking it was the most extreme piece of virtue signalling I've ever seen, but yes, a lot of self-hatred too.

And, of course, the obligatory denigration of white males.

That's all the Left has these days.

Of course, no mention of criminal activities by those in detention centres. Apparently we're supposed to ignore all that and just let them in. As Frau Merkel did in Germany. That turned out to be a great success, didn't it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/migrant-crime-germany-rises-50-per-cent-new-figures-show/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime/number-of-migrant-criminal-suspects-in-germany-surged-in-2016-idUSKBN17Q1G4
Posted by calwest, Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:19:28 AM
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Risible rubbish. Privileged white men ended slavery, with many giving their very lives to the cause!

Ended child labour, gave women the vote, sacrificed their lives in millions to preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! And marked by fields of poppies that stretch beyond the horizon!

Overturned years of prejudice in 1967 and gave back confiscated land and well, there are word limits and the list is thousands of words long!

How dare you come here and start barking at ordinary decent Australians like a disturbed junkyard dog, madam.

We have one of the most generous refugee resettlement programs anywhere! And retain the right to decide who is on that list, their cultural suitability, ability to actually assimilate into OUR culture! And the manner of their legitimate arrival!

If people want to settle here, we welcome them with open arms if they are documented, and of provable good character. Able therefore, to prove who and what they claim to be and from where they claim to have escaped from, via transition countries, where what they claim they were escaping, no longer prevailed!

Time we just moved these alleged victims to their new domiciles where there's no wire and no restrictions on their lawful movements? And where they are afforded comfortable shelter, food, water, sanitary amenities and medicine!

And if that doesn't suit, well they remain free to return from whence they came? As are all the shite stirrers like this demonstrably disingenuous writer!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:44:25 AM
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Hi ALAN B...

I couldn't agree with you more with your description of this particular lady. Though she doesn't especially say so, I wonder if she'd eluding to those still left on Manus Is? From the images I've seen of these people, most appear to are young men, of military age, no older refugees or women or children. Mainly young men. Why?
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:49:28 AM
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I am rather hoping that the author seriously considers some voluntary work abroad for a few years. There is a lot that has to be lived to be understood.
Posted by leoj, Thursday, 30 November 2017 12:35:38 PM
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Lets see how the stupidity of Merkel has effected one sector "violence against police"

Germany: Surge in Migrant Attacks on Police "Migrants Have No Respect for Us"

Violent attacks against German police have reached epidemic proportions, and Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door migration policy is to blame, official statistics show.

The Federal Criminal Police Office (Bundeskriminalamt, BKA) reported 36,755 attacks against German police in 2016 — or an average of 100 per day, a significant increase over previous years.

Violence — including verbal and physical assaults, and even murder — against police is rampant in all 16 of Germany's federal states. According to the BKA, the epicenter of the problem in 2016 was North Rhine-Westphalia (8,929 incidents), the state with the largest migrant population, followed by: Bavaria (4,930); Baden-Württemberg (4,355); Berlin (3,154); Lower Saxony (3,030); Hesse (1,870); Saxony (1,573); Rhineland-Palatinate (1,537); Hamburg (1,339); Thüringen (1,228); Schleswig-Holstein (1,237); Brandenburg (1,009); Saxony-Anhalt (899); Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (658); Saarland (521); and Bremen (486).

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11459/germany-migrants-attack-police

Coming to your State thanks to Dudd and Dillard.

A lot have already shown what they are capable of when they do not get there own way burning down detention centers, riots etc.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 30 November 2017 12:46:47 PM
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It takes a special type of stupid to forget the 1200 bodies floating off Christmas Island.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 30 November 2017 2:03:07 PM
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Philip S et al.
The number of men languishing on Manus Island is infinitesmal compared to those who arrived in Germany.

Shadow Miniater. Our navy is much more vigilent now. Our government is very coy about the number of boats that it is currently turning back.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 30 November 2017 3:24:25 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKe3G1zMZ6A

Here is another great “failed” Socialist experiment. Add this to gay marriage, another developing failure under the banner of Socialism : Yet to see the final solution of this madness!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 30 November 2017 3:57:19 PM
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So what your saying is that if we don't open our borders to every single person who wants to come here - without any documentation of who they are, where they've came from and what they've done - if we don't do that then we are 'sowing noxious seeds' and are deserving of future terrorist attacks?

Well I've got some hypothetical metaphors for you.

What say I want to come over to your house, eat you food and sleep on the lounge, make a big mess and not pay for it, you have to pay, and if you don't give me what I want then you believe you deserve to have me put a bomb under your house?

Maybe you think that somehow when Muslims come to gang-rape you like they do in epidemic proportions in other countries, you will just let them have sex with you instead so you can have power over not being gang-raped?

Maybe you'll say all women should submit to voluntary raping for the sake of cultural inclusion.
Seriously what a load of progressive crap...

The bottom line is this: The government was CHOSEN by the people because of it's policies.
You are trying to subvert the will of the Australian people by not accepting that these policies arose from the actual feelings of the Australian citizens.
By challenging these policies as well as our laws (supporting peopeple smugglers) you're saying that you do not accept democracy, or are only willing to support it when it suits you, not when democracy chooses a path you personally don't agree with.

If you wanted to write an unbiased article (instead of an ignorant guilt-inspired racist article against white people) you would have first noted that 'democracy' and 'policies' as supported by Australian citizens are why the government was voted in.

If I blamed 'Black people' for the countries problems would you or would you not call me 'Racist'?

You're racist against white people.
Do you wake up each day hating yourself for being born white, or does having this holier-than-thou morals exclude you from this racism?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 1 December 2017 12:35:13 AM
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And Australia is quite prepared to inflict these same 'undesireble" people on other countries such as PNG. Bah! Humbug.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 1 December 2017 6:59:27 AM
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As O Sung points out, in Manus theres mostly men of military age.

First we are lambasted for putting them behind wire. Now no longer the case, suddenly we are Nazis?

There's a solution, space age lie detection not even compulsive liars can cheat and able to be deployed covertly!

Without question, these folk's constructed/dubious claims need to be tested against, space age, unbeatable lie detection? And may highlight the very reason why these folk, felt the need to, #1/ Destroy their documentation and #2/ Choose an illegal entry that most genuine refugees cannot afford!

I believe these folk ought only be processed if they are shown to be cooperative law abiding citizens rather than a non-compliant renegades tying moral blackmail to force a result.

If they front up for space age technically assisted assessment and have their identity and status confirmed by something they cannot beat!

Then they might be offered resettlement elsewhere? Just not here!

Maybe they have already been tested and failed?

Regardless, if we accept just these few hundred then then organised criminal people smuggling business is back in business along with all that that includes, hundreds drowned, women and girls forced into prostitution and worse, to obtain sufficient funds to pay the organised criminal element that prey on these folk!

And that's never ever going to happen ever again!

As others have pointed out we elect a government to represent our wishes not that of subhuman gangsters!

We have put these folk and their illegal business model out of business and will never ever do anything whatsoever, to start it up again!

Let these folk opt for a UN sanctioned refugee camp if they must? If only to understand, there are far, far worse places and situations than Manus Island. And where genuine refugees may have been waiting for generations!

GET IN LINE BUDDY AND WAIT YOUR TURN! AND HAVE YOUR VALIDATED DOCUMENTATION AT HAND AND READY!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 1 December 2017 8:26:03 AM
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"Sowing noxious seeds"

Was I marking this essay then I'd give it 10/50, but only if I was in a good mood.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 4 December 2017 8:44:43 PM
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How can people be as naieve and totally lacking in any kind of intelligent
insight as to the real situation in today's world.

This article is brainwashed, racially motivated, against Western countries and white people. it's just plain dumb.

These so called refugees are trying to push their way into White countries.
They have realised what a good scam it is. Once allowed into Western countries,
the mask drops and they start to throw there weight around along with their obvious
racism and hate towards white people. They are criminal opportunists.
Women and children I have some compassion for, but these young bucks are nothing but trouble when allowed into Western countries and Western countries having seen the bad behaviour of these people we have given asylum to are no longer willing to allow them to play us for suckers.
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 8:49:53 PM
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