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Energy policy: can we have a Carbon-Cutting Reliable Affordable Programme (C-CRAP)? : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 20/9/2017

The root cause of the 'trilemma' is renewable energy. We could deliver reliability and affordability, as we have in the past, if we didn't have renewable energy targets.

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Are we being ripped off or what? And if not with official collusion? How?

Walk away safe thorium reactors, can actually be shut down for the weekend, then restarted with the new work day.

We're uniquely placed, without a nuclear power industry, to take advantage of those who have! As solid fueled reactors. With waste that in reality, is around, 98% unburnt fuel.

These folk are willing to pay annual billions if we but take this stuff off them. Preferably now before they bury the stuff.

Those annual billions would completely pay for dozens of Nuclear powered power plants, which as molten salt thorium reactors, could be tasked with profitably burning that waste, right where the energy is needed!

Steel and Aluminium smelters, where, walk away safe, molten salt thorium fuel reactors could be tasked not just with reducing nuclear waste stockpiles and weapons grade plutonium, but supplying our industries, with the world's cheapest, cleanest, safest power.

Weapons grade plutonium?

Well? Would you rather leave it in the thermonuclear weapons? Instead of cheap energy and exactly where and when our industries need it!

Power with a median price of $1.98PKH, would likely have all the high tech, energy dependant companies the world over queuing to get in, even if the price of entry was Aussie partners, which could easily be employee co-ops

On the news today, was the PM, advocating for a brand new coal fired power station for northern Queensland. And waxing lyrical about, how the northern development fund might finance it?

Well nobody else will and likely underpins why this nation seems to be going backwards at a rate of knots?

We need to stop and ask ourselves this simple question! Do we want, tax avoiding, profit repatriating rich foreigners, price gouging us via our energy supply, or rich Aussies building wealth generating partnerships with high tech manufacturers, from the world over?

The first doable with our coal and gas! Just never ever the latter! Which relies on common sense prevailing, along with mass produced, factory built, walk away safe, molten salt, thorium nuclear reactors!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 20 September 2017 1:08:48 PM
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Has anyone considered time lines?

Coal fired power - and that of course, means clean coal - only CO2 is the issue (if it really is an issue !) Can't be bought at the dealer and placed on a site. I've been in some German cites with huge electric plants (brown coal arriving from the nearby pit by conveyor)with totally clear skies, and apples shinning in street markets.

But gas powered generators can be bought off the shelf and offer a quick way out of the three fold knot ...well, not quite - costs go up and up.

And as for nuclear, in any form - including yet to be perfected thorium - time lines are both long and uncertain.

Seems no one can make a politically uncomfortable decision.
Posted by don't worry, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 1:24:39 PM
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Time lines long and uncertain? How about fourteen months from the placement of the order. To the time, nuclear sourced power flowed down the transmission lines!

Uncertain? Certainly! If are certain you want else!

As usual, with these fact free, certainties? They are certainly determined to be decidedly unhelpful!? A little pre post, fact checking would certainly be helpful.

As opposed to merely opening the mouth to change socks, hinder and delay! Eternally extend the time lines, until all opportunities are most certainly lost!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 20 September 2017 1:45:00 PM
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' RETS are the reason for the high electricity prices. We cannot have a reliable power supply without coal or nuclear. Our politicians are too stupid to see this. There is no need for pages of bumf to explain this.'

no ttbn not to stupid but to dishonest or naive to fall for the Green dogma in order to have the UN applaud them. Meanwhile China, India and the US forge ahead with coal fired stations and keep electricity cheap. Abbott is finally speaking out but far to late.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 2:03:31 PM
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Turn the power off, boats sink. That's good for business! Not good for boat owners though!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 7:51:24 PM
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Alan B, give us a shout when you have that molten salt thingy producing cheap power! I will sign up the minute it is built.
Until then, please, Alan B sing us another song!
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 8:40:31 PM
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