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The burka comes to parliament: Pauline Hanson's panto : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/8/2017

She is immune to critique, let alone criticism, and no doubt plotting the next display that will grab the headlines.

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There is always some truth in a good lie; the mark of a good lier is their use of that fundamental to further a false premise.

The lie here is Hanson's false premise that the Muslim community is a threat to Australians, through the simple wearing of unique clothing.

The opposite is actually the truth. Plenty of evidence says that Muslim women are suffering persecution in the public domain of Australia, for their adherence to a religious principal, namely the wearing of the burka.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 21 August 2017 8:59:12 AM
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I'm sick and tired of all you progressive southern whingers.
You want to whinge about PH, but how many of you scumbags have ever been to QLD, seriously?
How many of you have set foot outside the protection of the multicultural confines of your city safe-space?

In case you're not aware, in QLD, were not yet overrun by foreigners.
It's not like Sydney or Melbourne where you play spot-the-aussie the second you set foot in the place.
Another aspect of this is that because we're not outnumbered by foreigners, we don't walk around with our heads down subservient to multiculturalism.
We still feel free enough to say what we think.

Up here, we dont walk down one street and pass 6 kebab shops, an Ethiopian restaurant, and butchers that specialise in goat.

Binoy, your far too progressive to ever be any good at what you do.
To be any good at political journalism you need dedication to uncover the truth, not try to sell biased bs ratings based articles based on narrative and conjecture.

I think you should pay the money back Australian taxpayers paid for your education.
This article is the type of crap that you should've chosen to post on IA, and not here, as you sometimes do.

And it all goes back to Trump, as usual.
You're just a progressive mouthpiece.
The Aussies I know, their last names are Jones, and Smith.
It's not Kazim, or Ahmed.
You're pathetic.

You have no real understanding of this country or the people in it.
All you know is your bs southern pro-immigrant view of the country, an incubated ideology from a Melbourne uni campus likely full of more deranged progressives with mental issues whilst knowing little about all the people who actually reside across this nation.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 21 August 2017 9:50:51 AM
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Why are the whole parliament so frightened of this issue that they try to rubbish the only parliamentarian trying at least to publicise it. The Moslem religion is visibly in the middle of an internal civil war, we should not want to have anything to do with it. At the last census there was a small majority of religious nonbelievers. Why should we accept as refugees anyone who continues to profess adherence to either side and accept those only who were unfortunate enough to get caught in the middle because they were of other religions, or no religion or God forbid, gay
Posted by Dickybird, Monday, 21 August 2017 9:54:22 AM
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isn't it strange how the regressives pushing to pervert the marriage act quote countries that have legalised this nonsense as a reason for us being 'backward'. Well Merkel has pushed for partial face cover ban while the burka is banned in France, Netherlands, Egypt, Bulgaria etc etc. The regressive hatred is usually about sides. If its not Trump its Abbott and if its not Abbott its Hanson. The real bigotry came from Brandis and the writer of this rot.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 August 2017 10:23:13 AM
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Well, not quite a sack over the head, but a serious improvement! A little toothbrush stache over the top lip would likely be more revealing? Jawohl?

Perhaps, if she had been dressed in very revealing attire over the rest of her autonomy, like some belly dancing genie straight out of Alibaba and forty thieves? Some heads would have swung so swiftly that there'd be a few broken necks!?

Now, if we could just do something to that nasal whine? Or the intellect that needs basic issues explained. And therefore able to be completely and utterly manipulated by the alleged assistant?

Please explain, why do we put patently puerile people up to parliament, plainly not intellectually equipped to understand fundamental issues? Let alone stuff complex enough to challenge emerging Einsteins. And isn't that the plane truth?

The world is being divided by competing insanities! Therefore, this is without question, a time to find and focus on what unites us! Not how to divide less and less, with fewer and fewer! Hitler had the Jews, Hansen has the Muslims?

Is that plane enough?
Honestly, Alan B
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 21 August 2017 10:39:03 AM
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All this hysteria over Pauline demonstrating security issues with the burqa yet last year ISIS banned it in certain situations lol. If even Muslims can see the problem then what does that make us?

From SBS news

http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/arabic/en/article/2016/09/06/isis-bans-women-wearing-burkas-after-chiefs-attacked-veiled-assassins
Posted by Big Nana, Monday, 21 August 2017 11:09:59 AM
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"The response from various spokespeople of the Islamic faith was one of vigorous head-shaking, more in sorrow than anger. Nail Aykan, executive director of the Islamic Council of Victoria had to "look twice, thinking 'is this real?'" Then came the dismissive judgment: "The quote that you can never underestimate the predictability of stupidity, it came to my mind. But this is a new low."

The writer shows ignorance: Former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Haset Sali said he agreed with Senator Hanson that the burka should be banned in Australia, and that it is a Bedouin hangover that has been blamed on Islam; that the Koran makes it very clear that there is no need for anyone to wear it if they are to be a good Muslim; that AG Brandis (who showed his utter ignorance by stating that it is a religious garment) was just grandstanding. (See today's The Australian).

Sali said the above on ABC's Sunshine Coast Facebook -- of all places -- but the story was not picked up on the biased ABC's website.
Posted by Raycom, Monday, 21 August 2017 1:42:21 PM
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Dear Armchair critic,

I read your post with great interest.

Perhaps you need to get out more and take a look
at today's Australia. This is the 21st Century
not the 1950s. Today we have people who have
come and settled in Australia from a wide range
of nationalities, races, religions, and cultures.
Today we have an unmistakably new heterogeneous
face compared to what existed decades ago.

At present our country is one of the most ethnically
diverse societies in the world. And whether you like
it or not that's what Australia is. Today - we have a
variety of names - but that does not make us any less
Australian than you Sir. All I can say to you is -
Take a cup of tea, an aspirin, and have a good lie
down. This nation may have been built on a cup of tea,
a Bex, and a good lie down, but it was brought into
the 2ist Century by the blood sweat and tears of many
other Australians - whose names were not Smith or Jones.

So blow it out of your proverbial rear mate!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 August 2017 2:00:27 PM
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No Foxy the country was built by the Anglo Celtics.
A Dutch engineer here on a visit who had just been on a trip to many
parts of Australia, said in response to someone who said we are all
very lazy;
"No, Australians must be very hard workers, how else could they have
built a country like this in just two hundred years ?"

What has been done in the last comparatively few years is just the icing on the cake.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 21 August 2017 2:30:56 PM
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I’d just like to support Binoy Kampmark’s assessment of the Hanson phenomenon as it relates to her Senate stunt with a burqa last week.

Hanson always scores well with the slogan crowd, so I’ll just add mine: Brandis good, Hanson bad.

For a fuller reasoning on why this is so, here’s a piece I wrote about the incident, on my blog last week:

https://8degreesoflatitude.com/2017/08/18/paulines-peek-a-boo/
Posted by Scribe, Monday, 21 August 2017 2:33:44 PM
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Hey Foxy,
Yeah, well you are not the child of ANZAC's but you get a free holiday every year despite insulting the memory of what they fought for.
They sure as hell weren't fighting beside Muslims, they were fighting against them.

Think whatever you want, I've seen your ugly southern cities.
15 mins off the plane and into a Sydney train full of Chinese and Pakistani's and barely an Aussie to be seen amongst them.
Your southern cities are run down and ill mantained dumps.

I don't think the people in Sydney are aware of rendering yet, your houses are ugly too.

And you southern city folk think that you can set the agenda based on the fact you've already ruined your own cities, and then you all want to come up here and push the price of housing up because you don't want to live down there anymore.

You use the issue of what you've done ruining your own cities as justification to ruin the rest of the country...
And that everyone else is racist because they wont just bend over and take it without complaining.

Like I said we're not overrun up here, and we're not held ransom by overseas gategrashers.. yet.
I'm sure you'll get your way eventually though.

If I was able to blow your comment out my rear end btw, I most certainly would.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 21 August 2017 3:09:10 PM
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Foxy,

"Today we have an unmistakably new heterogeneous
face compared to what existed decades ago'

and an imported ideology, Islam, that we do not need and one which will eventually destroy our country if we do not stop it.

Hanson pulled a stunt, a stunt that momentarily had fear on the faces of some Parliamentarians and which caused George Brandis to shew his utter ignorance of Islam.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 21 August 2017 3:11:15 PM
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Pauline Hanson doesn't give two hoots about Kampark or the loony Left. She is in parliament, and they are not.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 August 2017 3:55:34 PM
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I should really go down to Coles and record a video, to show you that the people in my city look nothing like the people in yours.
Your so-called Aussies look like every bloody nationaily other than the Aussies we have up here... that actually do look like Aussies.
Do you comprehend that?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:05:51 PM
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Note that leading Left Lunatic, Sarah Hanson - Young says that the Hanson's burka appearance will be the cause of the next Muslim atrocity in Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:31:21 PM
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The Greens/Labour alliance who let many of the terrorist into the country now blaming Hanson for trying to minnimise their damage. This is so typical of the regressives who have dumbed down so many with croc tears.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:42:55 PM
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The sad part about Sarah Hanson-Young saying the next terrorist attack will be on Pauline's head, is that the real truth is that it's going to be on Hanson-Youngs head.
Why?
Because she just told every Muslim in Australia that if a terrorist attack is committed Pauline Hanson will get the blame and not Muslims who engage in that act.
It's almost like calling for or openly inviting a terrorist attack in order to blame Pauline Hanson for it.
Am I wrong?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 21 August 2017 5:00:45 PM
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' Because she just told every Muslim in Australia that if a terrorist attack is committed Pauline Hanson will get the blame and not Muslims who engage in that act.'

yes Armchair and she is a hero of the national broadcasters with their very sick narrative.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 August 2017 5:19:32 PM
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It seems there's not much energy in burqa ban .
" Former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Haset Sali said he agreed with Senator Hanson that the burka should be banned in Australia, and that it is a Bedouin hangover that has been blamed on Islam; "
It's the Bedouins ! No hangovers from camel drivers! Postal vote your view on flicking Bediouns , Bedoions ..Budoeinse
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 21 August 2017 6:39:57 PM
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Armchair, no worries about Sarah Young, not even the Islamists take
any notice of her.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 21 August 2017 6:49:51 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

Northern Queensland is where my father hailed from. Rockhampton actually. Lived there for a bit when we weren't in Darwin. Kind of a time warp, do they still wear their knee high white socks?

Darwin in the 70s was probably more diverse than any other place in the country, possibly still is.

So what Northern Queensland city are you from? And do you get a bit concerned visiting the big Southern cities? If so what is your biggest fear?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 21 August 2017 7:04:47 PM
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From Big Nana:
"ISIS fighters are now banning women from wearing burkas . According to The Express, an insider told Al Alam News Network of attacks on ISIS commanders by women wearing burkas and niqabs in recent months."
Unconfirmed rumours from bus-passengers reading The Express headlines suggest Iraqi Muslims , the Koran and Christian troops who support Iraq are banned by IS . EU is banned and Arab countries with airlines to the West , except for IS territory in Syria. In a power grab for the last IS city , commanders banned each other and some escaped in burqas which are available.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 21 August 2017 7:35:23 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

What nationality was the former Premier of Queensland -
good old Joh (Johannes)?

Where would Queensland be without its Chinese investors?
And isn't Brisbane a city of many nations?

BTW - Pauline Hanson was married to a Walter Zagorski
in 1971.

Try blowing that away.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-a-city-of-many-nations-data-shows-20130123-2d7cb.html
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 August 2017 7:45:48 PM
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Dear Bazz,

I would like to correct a few things for you on
behalf of my parents.

They came out to this country after WWII - as refugees.
(Displaced persons). And their first contribution
to this country were the initial two-year contracts.
Every migrant over the age of 18 had at that time to
enter into a two year contract with the Australian
Government which obliged the migrant to work wherever
directed. The contracts were strictly enforced, even if
it meant that families were split up.

My parents helped to solve an acute labour shortage in
Australia, especially in outlying areas. Along with other
European migrants they "relieved" the shortage of domestic
staff in hospitals, increased the output of building
material, helped to build Australian homes, saved fruit
and sugar crops...maintained railways...worked in sawmills,
brick factories, cement works, on sewerage projects,
water conservation (Snowy Mtns), salt and brown coal mining,
clearing land, quarrying, et cetera.

In other words my parents joined other migrants in the
rebuilding of Australia's capital structures that were to
serve the nation for many decades to come. And their
contribution was significant at a time when Australia
needed it most.

I just thought I would set the record straight.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 August 2017 8:06:37 PM
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OK Foxy, everything you said is correct.
Perhaps I misled you there in that I did not tell you that the Dutch
engineer said that in 1956.
So what he was referring to was everything up to that time.
So thinking about it, it was less than 200 years at that time.

There seems to be a legend that the Europeans came after the war and
developed the country from an agricultural country to as you see it now.
The country prewar was a technically highly developed country with a
standard of living prewar higher than that of Europe at the time.
During the war Australia supplied it forces with aircraft, ships,
trucks, radio equipment and fed the Pacific forces.
Workers owned their own houses at a higher rate than it is today
and was virtually universal. In the street where I grew up our fathers
were all workers of one sort or another and my father was a coach
painter on the tramway, as was his father.

Australia was very early in the postwar computer field with CSIRO
starting the alleged first computer in Australia.
On that I am fairly certain there was an earlier machine in Canberra
in a secret location.
I am certain because my first computer boss worked there.

The only area that was lagging was television, it did not start till
1957.
Pre war there were three car factories, all railway equipment was
built in Australia and I think there was a ship building industry.
Australia was leader in many scientific areas with radio astronomy
being THE world leader. As an aside I applied for a job at the radio
astronomy lab at Sydney University but much to my great disappointment unsuccessfully.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 21 August 2017 11:49:46 PM
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@ Binoy Kampmark

"Her command of the various types of Islamic religious costume also leaves something to be desired, not to mention her awareness of the formalities that attend it"

Costumes YES, but in no way religious.

Tents and face coverings are a man made ruling used to humiliate and subjugate women.

Nothing more.

Absolutely nothing at all to do with Islam which is a political, misogynist, totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion.

Please I suggest you start reading the Koran, Hadith and Sunnah.
Posted by SF, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:19:03 AM
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Yes Bazz we had a ship building industry. We even built ships, railway rolling stock & diesel locomotives in places like Maryborough for gods sake.

We built our own earth moving equipment, mining equipment, & exported cane harvesters & complete sugar mills.

Now of course we only take in each others washing, apart from mining, & we buy our mining plant from Korea.

Perhaps we should send a deputation to the US. Once he has walled out his Mexican problem, we might be able to build a wall across Oz at about Coffs Harbour latitude, so we can at least preserve a little of the best of the old Oz up here.

We still might have to clean out a bit of Brisbane, the part where English is only spoken as a second language, but I'm sure there is the will to do it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:29:42 AM
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Dear Bazz,

You misunderstand me. I am not trying to downplay
the contribution that anyone made to this
country. BTW - I worked for several years at
the CSIRO Radio-Physics/National Standards
Laboratories at Sydney University. Some of my
happiest times.

But to continue -
What I hate and will not tolerate under any circumstances
is the fact that some people insist on downgrading the
contribution that migrants have made to this country-
that it was only the Anglo-Celtics who made this country what
it is today. That is simply not true.

That I find dishonest and demeaning. It's telling me that
my parents who worked so hard from day one, raised their family,
and asked for nothing from anyone did not contribute anything
and don't count. History tells a very different story.
And is there for anyone to read and do their research on the
subject.

I shall leave it there. Suffice to say that I was born in this
country. I am proudly Australian. And all I ask is that when
talking about what contributions were made and by whom to this
country of ours - people like my parents not be excluded.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:41:42 AM
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Hey Foxy,
This is starting to get stupid.
Joh was born in NZ, family came here when he was aged 2.
Pauline got married age 16 to a Polish refugee after getting pregnant.
So what?
I may have seemed to come across a little racist yesterday, but that wasn't the intention and you missed the whole point.

Let me explain this to you:
I may technically oppose multiculturalism and SSM, but it's not because I hate foreigners or think gays shouldnt be allowed a legal union.
It's the crazed progressive push behind these agenda's I oppose, that seek to destroy all western countries soverignity and identity, and make us disunified and subservient to globalism ideals.
For multiculturalism, its about getting the mixture right, not too much too fast. Like concrete or steel you can crete something strong of something that fails, and importing Muslims is not an altogether great idea.
For SSM personally I could care less if they marry, but I oppose it because of the sexualisation of kids and attacks on other members of the community.
Chinese Investors?
Bringing this up makes no difference to me...
If I had my way I'd change the way we do things and I've mentioned these things before.
Basically I blame politicians for being incompetant, concerning themselves with leftist issues and other crap instead of coming up with better policies.
If I can do it, why can't they?

I'm glad you mentioned that there are 6 suburbs in Brisbane where foreigners outnumber Australians, because it proves my point.
Every bloody suburb in Sydney or Melbourne has more foreigners in it than Aussies now.

Which proves my point about you southerners now being hostage or subservient to situation you have created.
A local candidate cannot be elected without supporting immigrants and minority groups.
You're not really part of Australia anymore and you want to push the crap onto the rest of us.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:48:47 AM
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yep no doubt many contributed to making this country great while many academics have dumbed this country down. Once the CSIRO and BOM were somewhat credible. Now they are overpriced propaganda machines spewing out lies and fudged stats. Pauline might not be real bright but she makes Sarah Hanson look totally illiterate.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:54:01 AM
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'But to continue -
What I hate and will not tolerate under any circumstances
is the fact that some people insist on downgrading the
contribution that migrants have made to this country-
that it was only the Anglo-Celtics who made this country what
it is today. That is simply not true.'

who might these people be Foxy?

personally I have not run across anyone who denigrates the contribution of most migrants in this country. As for those who come here just for the welfare system well thats another matter.

at the end of the day its only an opinion. Many academics totally trash the legacy of many British who cleared land, fed the nation and produced wealth. I wonder if Martin Luther King Jr statues may one day be pulled down as he saw homosexually as an acquired disorder.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:09:04 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

You wrote;

"I may have seemed to come across a little racist yesterday"

Interesting use of the word 'little'.

Basically you were saying anyone who didn't look white or obviously indigenous could be lumped into the non-Australian bracket. If Victor Chang for instance was in your camera lens he would have been labelled as other.

You definitely came across as racist.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:11:33 PM
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Dear runner,

Have a read of Armchair Critic's posts in this discussion.
You'll see what I mean.

Dear Armchair Critic,

So you think that I am not really a part of Australia?

It seems to me that you are looking at things from a
very outdated, narrow-minded, and rigid prism, with which
most Australians today would not agree. But perhaps you
aren't being serious. Perhaps you're merely pulling my leg.
I'll take it that you are.

And, with that in mind and with a great big grin, all
I've got to say to you is:

May your chooks turn into emus
And kick your dunny down.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 4:01:15 PM
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Hey SteeleRedux,
Yes I know I came across in a manner seemingly racist, which was why I took the time to try to crarify what I meant.
I'm not necessarily against immigrants and foreigners (I think we take too many though) but I'm more against the 'agenda' that empowers foreigners and minority groups with a message that the existing inhabitants are all racist scumbags.
I'm telling you straight, I wouldn't regard myself as being truly racist but if my suburb got swamped by foreigners and muslims, it could go either way.
I don't want to carry hate, but I don't want to see my country and community changed for the worse by Soros funded progressive retards.

And Foxy, you're from Sydney aren't you?
Because I meant your city is not really representative of the rest of the country, thats why you ship immigrants to country towns to change the voting demographic across the board for global socialist agendas.
I didn't mean that you aren't Australian.
You're an Aussie, I accept that and I've said it before, and I'm proud of the efffort and contribution your parents made.
I'm just not that keen on your love of Muslims over the inetersets of regular Aussies, that's all.
I don't like it, but I understand why because you told me already.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 4:29:42 PM
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This seems to be getting away from the subject. The panto was a serious effort to get Parliament to discuss a serious problem. Immigrants used to come to Australia as they admired the life available here and once here they did their best very successfully to change themselves into Australians. This was true irrespective of race until the latest applicants seem to want to change Australia into their Sharia laws and their religion. This is not acceptable. What should be done about it

The ridiculous politically correct effort made by Senator Brandis and actually applauded by Labour shows that Parliament is completely incapable of even considering the problem
Posted by Dickybird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 5:29:08 PM
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Hasbeen: "Yes Bazz we had a ship building industry. We even built ships, railway rolling stock & diesel locomotives in places like Maryborough for gods sake.

We built our own earth moving equipment, mining equipment, & exported cane harvesters & complete sugar mills.

Now of course we only take in each others washing, apart from mining, & we buy our mining plant from Korea."

And we used to have the cheapest electricity prices in the world, until the alarmists got the gullible, PC-correct MPs to reverse that by subsidising the uncontrollable, unreliable, high-cost renewables and phasing out low-cost, reliable, coal-fired base-load power stations. Ever-increasing energy prices will drive offshore, whatever manufacturing industry we have left
Posted by Raycom, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 5:34:31 PM
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I thought we weren't supposed to comment on the clothing choices of female politicians, because it was sexist.
Posted by benk, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 7:52:25 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

I grew up in Sydney but I've lived in Melbourne
for much of my married life so I don't know
what Sydney is like today. I haven't been back
for a while. However I trust that the Mitchell
Library is still standing and the Manley Ferries
are still carrying people across - "7 Miles
from Sydney and 1000 Miles From Care!"

As for my "love" of Muslims?

How can anyone love, or for that matter - hate,
an entire category of people?

I try not to have a negative attitude toward any individual,
and I certainly
don't have the belief that certain groups all share the
same supposed traits. Because that would be silly.
We all have our individual differences and are usually
judged accordingly.

Anyway, for me this discussion has now well and truly
run its course. It's been a real eye-opener.
See you on our next discussion.

Enjoy your week.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 8:02:37 PM
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Feminism finds strange allies. From cynical experience, liberal (or centrist) feminists would accept the return of the chastity belt, if it were a 'woman's choice' and if it coincided with multicultural norms.

The standing ovation to George Brandis by the Labour and Greens MPs, while his own party sat silent, says it all. The centrist Left prioritises multiculturalism over women's identity and women's rights.

Radical feminists, on the other hand, are much less forgiving. They have the unhappy option of aligning with the right, which on the surface at least sees that the burqa and niqab are instruments of women's oppression - at least when it comes to the right's own agenda.

But radical feminists are not fooled. The right are much more concerned with the burqa and niqab as symbols of a threat to our way of life. Women's rights are simply a means to an end.

Whatever. Most radical feminists reject any form of women's oppression. If the right wants to come to the party, then consider yourselves invited.
Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 1:21:09 AM
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It is completely useless inviting the radical right to any sort of party. Renegades that still want to live the English tradition. That mob are not Australians. They are soles of no hope that can not see past oppression and disengagement. The making of the threads of civil war. Right here in Australia.
Posted by doog, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 3:39:10 PM
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@Killarney

Libertarian feminists believe that the value of free choice trumps all other values, but only when we talk about women. Radical feminists are more worried about the contexts and consequences of these choices.

The wearing of burkas highlights the problems with libertarian feminism. It is a choice, but one made in response to strong outside influences that trouble many of us. It cannot accurately be described as a "free" choice. Moreover, one woman choosing to wear a burka does nothing to benefit other women.
Posted by benk, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 7:35:31 PM
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"Police say a woman wearing a burqa robbed a Subway restaurant with a knife.
She allegedly entered the fast-food restaurant in Croydon, in Melbourne's eastern suburbs, at 5:30pm on Saturday and threatened workers.
Subway employees handed over cash and the alleged offender - wearing an Islamic full-face covering and a beige gown - fled the scene."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4814426/Knife-wielding-woman-wearing-burqa-robs-Melbourne-Subway.html#ixzz4qZNHnnBI

Police have made arrests.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 7:39:48 PM
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Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 7:58:07 PM
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doog

Don't agree. I'm to the left of politics, but I have no trouble aligning with the right on certain issues that affect women, or anyone else for that matter.

benk

'Radical feminists are more worried about the contexts and consequences of these choices.'

Yes, that's right. Radical feminists do not align with either left or right - their eye always remains on how women are affected by either right or left (or progressive/conservative) values, attitudes and behaviours. Liberal (or what you call 'libertarian') feminists are firmly entrenched within mainstream, or centrist, values. Their concern for women takes a backseat to whatever progressive-liberal values take priority in the mainstream agenda.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 24 August 2017 1:21:10 AM
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Foxy, your parents' time, as you clearly describe, was very different to today.
There was a *need* for them. We currently have 700,000 unemployed.
There was a program of work assignments. No such thing today.
They were expected to assimilate. Today, enclaves are *encouraged*.
They were European, so despite some variance, a fundamental cultural framework was *shared*. Today's immigrants are over 80% non-European.

That was then, this is now.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 24 August 2017 9:06:33 AM
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As Douglas Murray, the editor of a British Newspaper said.

Europe hasn't failed the Muslims. The Muslims have failed Europe.
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:04:01 AM
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CHERFUL

What is that supposed to mean? Muslims have migrated to Europe en masse, because their countries have been destroyed. Who failed who?
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 25 August 2017 2:24:30 AM
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