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Archaic obstacles: Australia, parliament and dual citizenship : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/7/2017

It is a provision that nabs the unsuspecting member of Parliament who discovers, by self-pursuit or otherwise, that he or she is, in fact, seized of the loyalty of another state.

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Dear Jayb.,

It is one hell
of a penalty to pay for not checking on your relationship
with a nation you left at 3 years of age and never knew
to now have to relinquish your Senate seat because of
it.

Obviously there is the argument that the Constitution is
merely trying to ensure that the only allegiance our
Parliamentarians have is to Australia but again New Zealand
and Canada are not - Libya, Syria, Somalia, Russia or China.

As someone pointed out earlier on another discussion - if
you were born in either New Zealand or Canada (both British
Colonies at the time) and left when you were either a baby
or three years of age - there should be room for you in our
Parliament especially seeing as you were a naturalised Aussie
and had sworn allegiance to Australia and her people - and were
genuinely oblivious to any problems.

When Australian Senators have lived here for half a century
without causing a fuss - and done a good job, it makes no
sense to boot them out.

Instead of booting these people out, lets hold a Referendum
and choose anothers to boot out (as one journalist suggested.
We all know who we'd pick!).
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 July 2017 8:23:32 PM
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Dear Alan B.,

Thank You.

I read in an article that fortunately in Australia we don't
have a significant culture of Constitution worship like
that present in the United States of America. Australians
have the good sense to realise that as much grand foresight
as our Constitution's authors may have had, their work is
not infallible.

And as stated earlier, in this regard, let us hope that out
of this silly undertaking of "gotcha" journalism does come
the public momentum to remove the archaic Article s44(i)
from our laws.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 July 2017 8:31:13 PM
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Well, people probably won't like what I'm about to say.
I think foreigners decietfully representing Australians in government and potentially deciding laws should be publicly executed by hanging.

I'm tired of the lies, tired of the msm and liberal lefts narrative mistruths and conjecture.

There is no reason whatsoever that I should be represented in my own country by a foreigner., and I don't see any reason why I should entertain or have sympathy for this lunacy.
Now I'm sure some may want to attack me for my opinion.
Before they do though, I want to remind them that I'm not the one who deceitfully lied to the Australian public.
Let em hang. No sympathy.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 21 July 2017 8:35:24 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

How long does a person have to live in this country
to no longer be considered a foreigner?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 10:20:11 AM
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Nothing new here, the article is about special pleading for the two Greens ex-Senators who claim they were unaware of and did not suspect the possibility of their own dual citizenship.

However there can be no doubt that they were made aware of the few, simple, plain English requirements for Senate nomination and specifically in the guide and application.

The foolish, arrogant Greens politicians don't believe in Australian sovereignty anyhow, are trenchant critics of nationhood and the Greens and are for 'Open Borders' immigration.

The Greens, are the 'odd men out' in Australia and the world too, for their cultural cringe to anything foreign. Also for their willingness to genuflect to and assist billionaires like US George Soros.

Soros, who through his 'Open Society'(sic, he means an 'Open Go' for George the billionaire), is notorious for interfering in the domestic politics of others countries, was convicted for insider trading in France, is reputed to have nearly sent the Bank of England broke, and has a vested interest in dissolving separate statehood and borders for rather obvious reasons. The first reason being that democratic governments and State borders (which mean State laws) are inconvenient to him.

There may be no surprise either that billionaires like Soros who can easily manipulate markets to their advantage (which is where national laws inconvenience him) are all for flooding Europe and democratic nations generally with economic migrants. Again, there is no guessing why. But it does weaken the culture, the rule of law and the governments.
tbc..
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 22 July 2017 10:34:25 AM
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It is telling that it is those who now challenge the Constitution are the same elements that frustrate the attempts of present and past Greens leaders to convert the Greens from a loose collective of serial activists, a protest party, to a party that can claim legitimacy through focussing on real, coherent policies and not solely be randomly bagging others.

The Greens leader has promised a new due diligence from the party. The ex-Senators have admitted fault, which as politicians they have tried to minimise of course.

Time to move on, but NEVER to bend over and serve the interests of wealthy foreigners interfering in Australia, Australia is a separate nation and is proud of the fact.

Australia will never lose its autonomy and independence to the 'One World' totalitarianism of International Socialists who are conveniently in bed with ruthless billionaires who don't even pay the taxes they should in their own country.

It is always interesting how the adherents to International Socialism claim to be supported by the many thousands who came to Australia as migrants. That is another lie, because those migrants and their children and grandchildren are assuredly reminded by their grandparents' life experiences one hopes, do NOT want to be under the boot of totalitarians, and definitely NOT being jerked about by some foreign billionaires as their overlords in cahoots with far left zealots.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 22 July 2017 10:41:57 AM
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