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What Fight Club teaches us about ISIS : Comments

By Mark Manolopoulos, published 7/6/2017

Reports of more terrorist attacks force us to once again address the question: why are westerners enlisting with ISIS?

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diver dan

Yes. Drug abuse, especially steroid drug abuse, is a factor in many of these political and non-political massacres. Peter Hitchens, in his UK Daily Mail blog keeps reiterating this point. Other (gasp!) radical feminist arguments point to the perpetrators' histories of domestic violence.

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In regard to the rest of the article. The elephant in the room is that these acts of political and non-political violence are expressions of male toxicity. We are not supposed to go down this road. We are supposed to view these acts as law and order issues, requiring law and order solutions. The gender of the perpetrators is of no consequence - nothing to see here, folks. Just move along.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 8 June 2017 1:49:59 AM
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"expressions of male toxicity"

Male, mid-twenties, well educated, domineering mother, raised by a Nanny State where even mild risk-taking by the 'imperfect girls' such as climbing park trees is frowned upon, he blamed for his gender and no girlfriend (he hopes that becoming a 'bad boy' might enhance his chances).

You have done well though, thinning the suspects to a definite 50% of the world's population and the other half responsible for raising them to be that way. 100%, go get 'em! Or is that 100% less your good self?
Posted by leoj, Thursday, 8 June 2017 2:22:48 AM
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We are hoping this will not become some group of people planing to introduce war.
Posted by rollyczar, Friday, 9 June 2017 2:15:04 AM
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I think you are right on point ttbn.
Posted by rollyczar, Friday, 9 June 2017 2:17:14 AM
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Mark Manolopoulous is upset because people in the western world are happy. He hates the idea that everybody is not as miserable as he is. He thinks that the violent ideology which encourages immature young people to bash each other in a "made for adolescents" movie is some sort of inspiration for the rest of us.

Memo to Mark. Violent movies are specifically engineered to appeal to young immature males, the very demographic that every society has the most trouble with. Of course these movies spout anti social messages, because the producers know that this is what the kids want to hear. The problem is, that although many young men are mature enough to see these messages as entertainment, some are going to consider them scripts on how they should live.

So if you think that teaching societies most troubled and dysfunctional young men that engaging in macho and violent behaviour is the best way to display their frustrations with their own condition, then don't be surprised if some dumb schmuck walks up to you one day and just punches you in the face because he took the philosophies of "Fight Club" seriously.

I know that you hate it Mark, but people in western societies have a right to "pursue happiness" anyway they see fit. If you think that poverty is uplifting and noble, and the consumer society is "empty", how come you are living in Melbourne and not in Greece? If you sprouted this nonsense to a young, poor Greek man dreaming of immigrating to Australia, he would think that you were crazy. Lefties were once upset because the majority of workers were poor and they lived miserable lives. Now the lefties are upset because the workers are doing alright and they are happy. You just can't win with lefties. No matter what happens, all they do is whine.

You know what your problem is, Mark? You have a compulsive need to think that you are better than everybody else, and you are hanging out with the wrong sorts of people who think the same way. Grow up
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 9 June 2017 6:18:11 PM
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Here is another spray, Mark.

The reason why young Muslim men in western societies want to be Jihadis is not because they are bored and looking for excitement. It is because they are members of a violent, totally intolerant, misogynistic and homophobic religion. The Islamic religion is the only religion in the world who's holy scriptures instruct Muslims to spread the religion through violence and terror. It is a religion who's God tells Muslims that non Muslims are untermenschen that he has "made out of base matter." It is a religion who's God instructs Muslims to kill, terrorise, mutilate, and humiliate non believers "until they embrace Allah." It is a religion which glorifies being a Jihadi fighting for God. It glorifies every Ghazi who has killed an infidel. Reward yourself. Kill infidels, Take the infidels property. Turn their women into sex slaves and make them breed Muslims. It is a religion for intellectually challenged misfits, criminals, rapists, and wife beaters

And when some of their members do exactly as their God, prophet, and scriptures order them to do, people like yourself go into mental gymnastics trying to blame everybody and everything other than Islam for the problem. "Fight Club"? Don't make me laugh.

Islam is a dangerous religion. The western world should never have imported these people in the first place as they are probably unassimilatable and will be a serious problem within our societies from now until eternity. The Christian Philippinos have been fighting them for hundreds of years and they are still attacking Philippinos of every religion and killing them.

People like yourself think that anyone from some Muslim craphole (which is a craphole because it is Muslim) has a "right" to just barge into our country and head straight to Centrelink. Of course Muslims have trouble fitting in. Their value system is diametrically opposed to our own, and their religion demands that they keep themselves aloof from non believers. Add multiculturalism, which encourages them to maintain their social separation and their bizarre homicidal anti social values, and they are never going to integrate.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 10 June 2017 6:08:55 AM
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