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United Nations fabricated Arab narrative deceives academics : Comments

By David Singer, published 8/5/2017

The Study omits to mention that 78% of Palestine had already become an independent Arab State in 1946 and been renamed the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan.

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….............The offending statement in the Study misleadingly declares:

After investigating various alternatives the United Nations proposed the partitioning of Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized.

The actual wording of Resolution 181 stated:

Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in Part III of this Plan, shall come into existence in Palestine....

The Study omits to mention that 78% of Palestine had already become an independent Arab State in 1946 and been renamed the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan................

The only person attempting deceit here is Singer. Yet again he makes a dog's breakfast of it.

He openly states that Transjordan came into existence in 1946. So in 1947 when discussions about Palestine took place, they referred to what we perceive today as Israel and the Occupied Territories of Palestine. That is what the UN voted on in relation to Resolution 181. Now compare the two wordings. Both mention independent Arab and Jewish states with Jerusalem controlled internationally. There is absolutely nothing misleading about the Study's wording.

The only offending & misleading statement is Singer's pathetic attempt to blatantly muddy the water by dragging in Transjordan.
Posted by Anti-Colonial, Friday, 19 May 2017 3:07:13 PM
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#Anti-Colonial

Do you agree:

1. That the word "Palestinian" was not used in Resolution 181?

2. That 78% of the territory of the Mandate for Palestine became an independent Arab State in 1946?

BTW - still waiting for you to justify your claim that there is no difference between a Palestinian Jew and a Palestinian Moslem.
Posted by david singer, Friday, 19 May 2017 5:07:12 PM
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Resolution 181 dealt solely with the partition of Palestine in 1947, not with any other concept of Palestine prior to 1947. UNSCOP considered also a federal state of Palestine, that was a variation of the 1939 White Paper supporting a single Palestine state. So given the constant references to this area as Palestine and its potential for statehood, describing Arabs living in Palestine as Palestinian Arabs is perfectly logical to any sane intelligent person.

Your pathetic persistence in trying to muddy the waters with incorporating Transjordan into Palestine in 1947 merely exposes your perfidy. As far back as 1927 the Brits were announcing that Transjordan was not part of Palestine. Furthermore autonomy for Transjordan with its own borders began way back in 1928. Conflating the territory of Transjordan into the territory of Palestine simply because they were both incorporated in the League of Nations Palestine Mandate is either indicative of stupidity or a deliberate attempt to deceive. In your case I would go with the latter.

BTW – been waiting far longer for you to provide hard evidence that Zionism is a two thousand year old movement. Still waiting for the evidence that shows a concerted Jewish effort to migrate back to the Holy Lands prior to the evolution of the Zionist movement in the late 18th century.
Posted by Anti-Colonial, Saturday, 20 May 2017 12:13:29 AM
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Whoops!

Still waiting for the evidence that shows a concerted Jewish effort to migrate back to the Holy Lands prior to the evolution of the Zionist movement in the late 18th century.

should read as

Still waiting for the evidence that shows a concerted Jewish effort to migrate back to the Holy Lands prior to the evolution of the Zionist movement in the late 19th century.
Posted by Anti-Colonial, Saturday, 20 May 2017 12:16:47 AM
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# Anti Colonial

I ask you again:

Do you agree:

1. That the word "Palestinian" was not used in Resolution 181?

2. That 78% of the territory of the Mandate for Palestine became an independent Arab State in 1946?

Why is it so difficult for you to answer "Yes" or "No"?

I guess you have given up on substantiating there is no difference between a Palestinian Arab and a Palestinian Jew. You could never substantiate this anyway. It was a false claim like so many other claims made by you.You sure have had plenty of opportunities to substantiate that claim and squibbed it each time.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 20 May 2017 10:14:33 PM
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D.S.

My response is a counter to your attack on a study and the people that subsequently cited that study. You accuse all of them of explicitly and or implicitly of deceptive behaviour or lacking the academic nous to properly research their work. When your simplistic data mining is put in its proper context it shows the only person acting deceptively is you. If you believe my response was misleading or deceptive, you are free to point out where it misleads or deceives. You are free to point out why the omission of the Trans-Jordan autonomy and the use of the word Palestinian was deceptive.

And just to emphasize your deceptive behaviour, one only has to highlight another paragraph in your article. It states -

…..."Palestinians" were first defined in the 1964 Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Charter to mean Arab citizens normally resident in Palestine in 1947 and their descendants. Jewish and non-Arab Christian residents were excluded under this racist and apartheid definition............

Article 7 of that same PLO Charter reads - “Jews of Palestinian origin are considered Palestinians if they are willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine.”

What is truly hilarious though, is a supporter of the fascist democracy of Israel accusing others of racist and apartheid behaviour.
Posted by Anti-Colonial, Sunday, 21 May 2017 11:52:19 PM
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