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Trump-Netanyahu meeting set to expose Obama’s collusion on Resolution 2334 : Comments

By David Singer, published 14/2/2017

Netanyahu's visit to the White House presents the perfect opportunity to personally hand his evidence to President Trump.

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Dear David,

Jews were separated from Muslims in some cases by the colonial powers.

In the case of Iraq Jews served in high positions during British control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Iraq

“During the British Mandate, beginning in 1920,[15] and in the early days after independence in 1932, well-educated Jews played an important role in civic life. Iraq's first minister of finance, Sir Sassoon Eskell, was a Jew, and Jews were important in developing the judicial and postal systems. Records from the Baghdad Chamber of Commerce show that 10 out of its 19 members in 1947 were Jews and the first musical band formed for Baghdad's nascent radio in the 1930s consisted mainly of Jews. Jews were represented in the Iraqi parliament, and many Jews held significant positions in the bureaucracy, which often led to resentment by the Muslim population.”

In the case of French North Africa the hostility to Jews was partially due to their elevation above Muslims. This hostility predated the State of Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

“In the 19th century, Francization of Jews in the French colonial North Africa, due to the work of organizations such as the Alliance Israelite Universelle[20] and French policies such as the Algerian citizenship decree of 1870,[21] resulted in a separation of the community from the local Muslims.[22][23]

The French began the conquest of Algeria in 1830. The following century had a profound influence on the status of the Algerian Jews; following the 1870 "Décret Crémieux", they were elevated from the protected minority dhimmi status to French citizens of the colonial power.[24][25] The decree began a wave of Pied-Noir-led anti-Jewish protests (such as the 1897 anti-Jewish riots in Oran[26]), which the Muslim community did not participate in, to the disappointment of the European agitators. [27] Though there were also cases of Muslim-led anti-Jewish riots, such as in Constantine in 1934 when 34 Jews were killed.[28””

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Posted by david f, Saturday, 4 March 2017 3:39:40 PM
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In the case of Egypt many Jews had passports of other countries and used the connections which that gave them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt

"In 1937, the government annulled the Capitulations that gave foreign nationals a virtual status of exterritoriality the minorities groups were mainly from Syrian, Greece, Italy, Armenia (this also affected some Jews who were nationals of other countries). The immunities from taxation to foreign nationals mutamassir (minority groups) trading within Egypt had given them highly favourably trading advantages.[32] Many European Jews used Egyptian banks as a common destination for transferring money from central Europe, and for those Jews escaping the Fascist regimes.[33] In addition to this, many Jewish people living in Egypt were known to possess foreign citizenship, and those possessing Egyptian citizenship often had extensive ties to European countries."

In Iraq, Egypt and in French North Africa most Jews for one reason or another lived better than most other residents of those countries, and their status was resented. This justified neither their persecution nor their expulsion. Nevertheless, the resentment against the Jews predated the establishment of the State of Israel and was a factor in their expulsion when independence made it possible.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 4 March 2017 3:58:24 PM
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#davidf

Sorry but nothing in your last two posts provides any source to justify your following claim:

"The expulsion of Jews from Arab countries was partially payback. In some cases the expulsion of Jews had another cause besides the partition of Palestine. While Iraq and Egypt were occupied by the British, some Jews served British interests. When the states became independent they did not want those who had served the colonial powers especially if they were Jews."

I searched your authorities high and low but found no reference to the term "payback" or that Jews were driven out for serving British interests.

Iraq became independent in 1932 and Egypt gained full independence in 1936. Britain had therefore ceased having any presence, influence or control over the affairs of these two countries - well before the events of 1947-1948.

Your sources do establish that Jew-hatred and Jew-envy reeked in Iraq, Egypt and North Africa prior to the 1940's - but it had nothing to do with Jews serving British interests.

You yourself admit as much with your following statement:
"In Iraq, Egypt and in French North Africa most Jews for one reason or another lived better than most other residents of those countries, and their status was resented. This justified neither their persecution nor their expulsion. Nevertheless, the resentment against the Jews predated the establishment of the State of Israel and was a factor in their expulsion when independence made it possible."

"Resentment" is not "payback". "Envy" and "jealousy" and "hatred" is not "payback"

For you to therefore misleadingly describe the flight of Jews from these countries as "payback" is not supported by the sources you cited.

You need to do better - or retract your above statement.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 4 March 2017 5:23:57 PM
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Dear David,

You want to assert that resentment was not a factor in the expulsion of the Jews and did not lead to payback. OK. Since neither of us is a mind reader we can leave it at that. We know what the actions were. Possibly, the Arabs thought that since the Jews now had a place to go they saw that the Jews went there.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 4 March 2017 5:42:15 PM
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#davidf

Don't put words into my mouth.

Resentment (ie Jew hatred) was indeed a factor in the expulsion of the Jews.

That is a far cry from what you alleged - payback for the Jews because they served British or other colonial interests.

You have not and cannot substantiate that allegation - as you have beeen unable to substantiate other allegations during this long correspndence.

It is disgraceful that you continue to plug a narrative that has no credibility whatsoever.

I will continue to expose your false and misleading comments.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 4 March 2017 9:45:51 PM
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It's straight from the racist copybook. Natives oppose foreign colonial masters who steal and occupy their land. If the occupiers are British they'll be anti-British, if they're Boers they'll be anti-Boer etc. Here's where the old linguistic sleight of hand comes in. Jews have a long history of racist hostility directed at them, culminating in the Nazi Holocaust when the Huns singled them out, rounded them up and murdered them on a genocidal scale.

Shortly after the war Zionists with colonial ambitions took advantage of the world's lasting revulsion over the Nazi Holocaust and its origins on ancient antiSemitism. European colonialism was on the way out - why not seize and set up a racist colonial state in which the overlords were genetic Jews (with an extra boost coming from the idea that God chose them). Who could oppose that after the appalling treatment Jews has suffered for centuries? So the natives were ethnically cleansed into Untermensch status. Hostility to the overlords who brought this about could be met with appeal to the unique victim status of Jews. It could be written off by con artists as more of the old Jew-hatred.

Sift through the writings of David Singer and one or two of his epigones for example after example of this trick. Don't be fooled by it - it's the voice of colonial oppression.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 5 March 2017 1:12:20 AM
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