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The CSIRO's case for 'green growth' is flawed : Comments

By Samuel Alexander, Jonathan Rutherford and Josh Floyd, published 6/2/2017

Contrary to the claims of the Report, the most developed nations must urgently make a fundamental transition

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Hi Has been,

I don't know, I think Trump will change his tune when he realises, dimly and slowly, that there are bucks to be made from the GW scare.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 6 February 2017 5:57:57 PM
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Hi Joe I think Hasbeen may be onto something? And maybe hottest record following hottest record year, when that solar furnace in the sky has been in a simultaneous waning phase, since the mid seventies. (NASA) And having survived the hottest recorded January.

And the prospect of a hottest ever february? Caused as Hasbeen might agree, by all those fevered imaginations in science labs and institutions around the world, need to sit down take a cold shower and stop obsessing!

And as those fevered imaginations cool down, so will the planet?

It's not really hot, that's just false reporting by folks with a vested interest? And that's not rivers of sweat pouring off my brow, just the remnants of a passing shower.

And because it is not hot, all those hoodwinked oldies can stop rehydrating to beat nonexistent heat!

After all we have Hasbeen's assurance it all a con, not real, it ain't happening! And must be right because Hasbeen is never ever wrong! You can take his assurance to the bank and get busy buying up seaside real estate at bargain basement prices from hoodwinked owners.

And we'll know that Hasbeen is right, given he'll mortgage his entire portfolio to buy, just to show those scammers, he has their number?

No joe, don't hold your breath, just kidding.

Incidentally, Nuclear power needs, as you say, to be on the table, as cheaper than coal, safer than coal, cleaner than coal, thorium! And just on the vastly superior economic case alone!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 6 February 2017 8:21:22 PM
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And you actually believe the tripe they are feeding you Alan?

You obviously aren't spreading your research net wide enough.

See the new thread I've just done, showing the NOAA used false figures in their paper trying to defuse the 17 year pause.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 6 February 2017 9:29:09 PM
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The CSIRO is presently flawed.

CSIRO agenda does not include the state of the world ocean environment and ecosystems linked to water quality and sustainable supply of affordable seafood protein and fish for industrial animal feed meal, including for aquaculture.

The CSIRO case for growth is similar to farmers not knowing how and where feed will come from to supply farmed animals.

Without knowledge of ocean ecosystems how can anyone know how many humans can be fed sufficiently, daily on this planet.

Australia is now importing over 70 percent of fish PLUS pork in pizza replacing a fish and chip shop in virtually every town

CSIRO 'management' appears to be even ignoring the Australian Sediment Dispersal System and point source sewage and land use and aquaculture nutrient flowing into alongshore current flowing to Great Barrier Reef waters.
Nutrient overload pollution is feeding algae that is smothering coral and marine plant nurseries.

CSIRO economic rationality is absurd, why allow un-managed sewage and port excavation nutrient pollution to so seriously impact professional and amateur fishing and GBR icon tourism industry?

The CSIRO has changed.
About 20 years ago CSIRO scientists were warning many of Australia's 300 plus rivers were is danger of collapse and reaching a point of no return, but now whole estuaries and bays are in advanced state of collapse. Moreton Bay Qld for example.

Foreshore development is ignoring the overall state of Australian marine environment collapse.

Whole coastal community economies and people and marine industry are impacted.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:52:23 AM
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Malthusians keep regarding their record of being wrong as further evidence that they must be right. They get this mindset from their mantra that you can't have indefinite growth on a finite base, which is fair enough, but does not justify their time-frame, namely, that the end is nigh.

Either you're going to compare apples with apples, in which case the hairshirts and mung beans crowd are not going to satisfy the same number and kind of human wants to the same degree.

Or you're not, in which case, who appointed you as Supervisor-General of the World?

However notice that the voluntary simplicity proselytes never seem to start with themselves and stop communicating with us by computer?

Particularly offensive is their constantly presuming to take a Gods-eye view of the rest of us, as so many undesirable bacteria on a petri dish owned by them.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 4:03:04 AM
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I bet not one of these so called 'experts' go one single day without their air-conditioned offices and central heating; whilst millions of other hard working Aussies do actual productive work right out there in the harsh Aussie sun.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 7:01:51 AM
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