The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Security Council Resolution 2334 violates UN Charter > Comments

Security Council Resolution 2334 violates UN Charter : Comments

By David Singer, published 11/1/2017

The Security Council needs to ensure that this time round the Mandate and article 80 are put centre stage before the ICJ.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. All
Interesting David! You are all over your view of any violation of Jewish rights? But seem to want to defend Israel, when she assumes carte blanch rights on "acquired" Palestinian territory?

This reminds me of the inner workings of (criminally corrupt?) President Nixon's mind, when he said, if a President does it, it's legal! (Watergate scandal)

Ditto ever expanding Jewish settlements on Palestinian land!

I wonder how many rights are violated as generational Palestinian homes and sustaining orchards are bulldozed with all the concern for the welfare of the displaced, only exceeded by Herr Hitler's SS storm troopers!

I suppose as long as it's legal? That's all that really matters?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9:56:08 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9:56:08 AM

A legal system and a justice system are often two different things.
Posted by Referundemdrivensocienty, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 6:28:52 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
#Alan B

Your claim of "ever expanding settlements on Palestinian land" - is refuted by the following facts:

1. When the PLO was formed in 1964 – article 24 of its Charter proclaimed:
“Article 24. This Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields.”

2.The “West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan” had been callled "Judea and Samaria" for 3000 years until Transjordan in 1948:
(i) conquered and occupied those areas ,

(ii) forcibly removed all the Jews living there,

then in 1950:

(iii) changed its own name to Jordan and

(iv) changed Judea and Samaria’s name to the “West Bank” to differentiate its newly acquired territory from the East Bank of the Jordan River and to erase any Jewish connection or identification of these areas as part of the Jewish ancient biblical, ancestral and legally mandated homeland.

3. Judea and Samaria were designated as areas within which the Jewish National Home was to be reconstituted under the 1922 League of Nations Mandate for Palestine. These legal rights vested in the Jewish people are alive in 2016 by virtue of article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

4. In 1968 article 24 was dropped from the revised PLO Charter.

5.Jordan did not relinquish legal and administrative control of the West Bank until 31 July 1988.

Given the above facts how can you claim that the settlements are expanding on "Palestinian land"?

The Jewish people have claims as well - as I have enumerated above.

Just be honest and use a phrase like "expanding settlements in areas of the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) disputed between Arabs and Jews"

That is accurate and reflects the current position today.

The term "Palestinian lands" only signifies how much misleading and deceptive Arab propaganda you have swallowed and the success of that propaganda.

If you want to be taken seriously - be careful in your choice of words.
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 12 January 2017 10:46:31 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It was all had been written. And it is fulfilling.
Posted by TheDogLine, Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:35:04 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Legal...schmegal

The world's Jews have homelands in dozens of countries, living peacefully as equals with everyone else, and the "need" for a racist state of born overlords and submen is a con. The idea that Jews were excluded from residing in Palestine before Irgun and other foreign racist terrorists grabbed the territory in 1948 is a blatant lie, like the lie that foreigners whether in Britain or elsewhere had some extraterritorial "right" to make laws for disposal of Palestine. British "mandates" over Palestine have a much validity as their "mandate" over Rhodesia.

As for UN, the UN's jurisdiction over Palestine has been effectively abolished through a routine US veto over all its rulings. The power of America to veto decisions of the UN is itself an anachronism derived from the Allied victory over the Hun aggressors when it was a very different America from what it became after the war.

Mr Singer can keep referring to decisions which have long lost their moral and even legal validity but it has as much relevance as efforts to apply lipstick to a pig.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 16 January 2017 5:22:02 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy