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Trump is right: climate spending is damaging to the economy and will achieve little : Comments

By Nicola Wright, published 28/11/2016

Worldwide there are 350 gigawatts of coal projects currently under construction, and 932 gigawatts of pre-construction coal proposals in the pipeline.

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Mhaze, how dense are you really? Get online and look at a thorium molten salt reactor being built, step by step and in the fifties at a place called Oak Ridge Tennessee! No pixie dust included!

And after being starved of R+D funds was shut down by Nixon who diverted the funds to an unsuccessful molten metal FBR in his home state of California during the seventies

! I'd also be pleased if all you coal share owning retirees would take a look at Thorium V greens. Then take a guided tour of the PIXIE DUST POWERED Indian facility as an online spectator.

Or look at kirk Sorensen's in depth update or how simple it is to turn currently flared methane into liquid methanol!

Yes, we've paid for Nixon's "corrupt" interference, when he prematurely pulled the plug? Perhaps because no problems were encountered or they were too successful?

The fact it didn't produce electrical power, but was lit by nearby Oak Ridge coal fired power station is not the point!? As something capable of safely maintaining temperatures of around or over 700C, is quite capable of running a heated gas turbine!

As for the spurious argument they don't exist?

Might also be applied to the catalytic cracking of the water molecule to produce hydrogen! We don't do that now, but we did, and could do so again any time we want!

Or much more exciting than turning water into fuel, is the new deionization desalination method the desalinates water for around quarter of the price of conventional reverse osmosis, all while producing 95% potable water!

Testing in Texas, proving even at current energy input costs, able to provide cost effective broad scale irrigation!

And don't our farmers need that? Or is it just another case of, I'm alright Jack?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 28 November 2016 2:41:35 PM
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Hasbeen paying for something when there is apparently no immediate crisis is called insurance.
Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 28 November 2016 3:14:11 PM
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Taswegian says” it cushions against possible traumatic shocks later on”
How do these shocks arise, Taswegian?
Are you able to refer us to science which shows any measurable effect of human emissions on climate?
Perhaps you took notice of the failed climate fraud promoter, James Hansen, and his baseless assertions.
“Hansen completely ignored the facts that there has been no rapid global warming over the last three decades and there is no evidence that the gentle warming of the late 20th century was the result of carbon dioxide emissions”
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2013/08/james-hansen-s-many-and-varied-furphies/
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 28 November 2016 3:55:50 PM
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LL there are climate shocks and fuel price shocks. In March 2016 Tasmania faced the prospect of residential electricity rationing due to low dam levels as a result of El Nino. Over 100 diesel gensets were leased at great cost and a mothballed gas plant was brought out of retirement. I have no reason to doubt the next El Nino will be as bad or worse.

That was this year. In 2008 the Global Financial Crisis was triggered when oil nudged $150 a barrel in conjunction with subprime mortgage defaults. Again I have no reason to doubt it couldn't repeat just as suddenly.
Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 28 November 2016 4:46:47 PM
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given the hypocrisy of the gw high priest who can't help flying around the world and lecturing to others its no wonder the public have woken up to the scam. The ' elites ' might have dumbed down the getup crowd but thankfully those who have lived a few decades have lived through a number of these scams and will continue to revolt. No slow down either of the deplorables off the Bali being packed in like sheep while Gore flies his personal jets and the multitudes of bureacrats and past Australians of the year flying business and first class on money scammed from the workers.

btw I am still vsiiting beaches I have been for 50 years. No real differnce although they tell me now the heat is hiding in the ocean. How gullible can one get. We have been told for the last 50 years that the Barrier Reef only has a couple of years left. No doubt the scare will continue for the next lot of green/labour voters.
Posted by runner, Monday, 28 November 2016 4:47:30 PM
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L.L. Get online and look at thorium on U tube! And then understand if you're intellectually capable, the enormous overwhelming economic argument for CHEAPER THAN COAL, SAFER THAN COAL, CLEANER THAN COAL thorium based energy!

And then go with that, moderated only by reason and logic!

Forget coal or climate change and just focus purely and simply on the economic case for thorium and against any other currently available or doable energy source! It's a no brainer!

Have a look for yourself, rather than allow (economically threatened) coal company execs or shareholders to basically B.S you out of taking a butchers for yourself? THEIR GOAL!?

Options include a blow by blow description of building a working prototype molten salt thorium reactor and the means/techniques for adding new material or removing medical miracle isotopes, while the walk away safe reactor is running.

Or, take a online guided tour through the new Indian facility? Get acquainted with the evidence based chapter and verse facts presented by many keynote speakers!

Then draw your own inescapable conclusions about how much of this irrefutable science is pixie dust straight out of the fantasy land of cyber bullies; and how much is backed by "PROVEN" science! THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT!

I invite, Never ever and his B.S. ("Bachelor of Science") coal company buddies, to challenge Scientists like Kirk Sorensen to an informed debate? [Please, make my day, I DOUBLE DARE YOU!] As depicted in Thorium V greens and as they tour around a coal fired power station!

Gather the relevant facts and then let them stand or fall on evidence based merit!

All you can lose is preconceived and patently false prejudices/mountainous misinformation!

Which documents former high profile greens converted to thorium energy on the irrefutable science! Never ever old mate, willful ignorance is just a self applied blindfold that protects you from the verifiable facts!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 28 November 2016 4:56:42 PM
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