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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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"This is a poorly-written scattergun of ideas that is trying to pretend to be a reasoned argument."
Posted by Waverley, Monday, 21 November, 9:54:27 AM

Yes, it's a gish-gallop trying to conflate a number of loose or even unrelated concepts. Most are false-equivalence; some are red-herrings, or misrepresentation, or a combination.

It must be hard being a non-elite pleb looking up to the PC elites who see equality and "live and let live" as a good tenet to live by.
Posted by McReal, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:03:23 AM
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Hasbeen states 'Homosexuals are poofters...' Ahh, such intellect on display. One has to wonder why the focus is on gay males though. A psychologist's dream case going on there.
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:19:05 AM
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The "PC elites" are fully supportive of SSM. I agree that this piece is poorly written; so poorly written that a few posters have not got the message. This man is with the Christian Lobby - certainly against SSM and against the anti-democratic elites. So why does he say that the elites would be sighing with relief over Trump's victory? On the contrary, they are crapping themselves at the sound of the man's name. And why attack Samantha Maiden, a conservative reporter working for a conservative newspaper? Very confusing.

We all know that the queers blocked the plebicite because they knew that the majority of Australians, who have more common sense and decency than they and our tyrannical politicians have, would vote no. We also know that the poofter-pandering idiot Turnbull has been banned from the Mardi Gras for his pains.

We do not need confused ramblings. What we need is direct democracy as is enjoyed by Swiss citizens. Australia is no longer a democracy in any shape or form. We need to start calling very loudly for direct democracy via referenda on things like SSM, multiculturalism, immigration etc.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:23:24 AM
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And along comes ttbn with 'poofter-pandering idiot'...another example of colossal intellect to rival Hasbeen. Also doesn't seem to understand what referendums are used for. Hasbeen has strong competition.
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:27:55 AM
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The deplorables have certainly shown themselves since Trump was elected. In Australia the getup drongos make up a good proportion of them. Soros seems to be one of their high priests who helps fund gw scam, indoctrinates and grooms kids for perversion and makes the white male the target of hatred. I see Roz Ward being a bully yesterday.I suppose he/she is just being the total hypocrite that many socialist are.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:52:14 AM
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The very next election will be a binding plebiscite! And where folks will be marked on what they've done or delivered!

Not endless promises made conditional of the sale of our economic sovereignty!

Four foreign hedge funds have positions in all four big banks?

Now one on its own with a maximised 15%, is nothing to worry about!?

But four, able to come to some arrangement from deep in the opaque bowels of a foreign land? May explain the distinct lack of GENUINE competition between banks and petroleum companies?

Yes we need foreign funds! Absolutely! But not the debt laden tax avoiding foreign firms and foreign control and patent price gouging that comes with it!

There is a rigorously resisted means of separating the foreigner and his/her investment dollar without any of the aforementioned negatives!?

And that is via the issue of self terminating thirty year bonds! Now? Still doable! Later?

A fixed rate of return, a government guarantee and a tax free status and we could get crushed in the rush to buy? And in trillions for fail safe energy and water infrastructure, income earning projects.

When the nett become higher than the recurring? Issue more for new projects!

Rapid rail and a nuclear powered national fleet! Only needing to refuel once every hundred years!

The ships which could be fully submersible to defeat pirates, storm and tempest, to deliver like a never stopped pony express!

Would become the most reliable relied on bulk freight delivery system in the world and the most profitable!

Be it a publicly owned one, run by biennial tendering contractors or, government sponsored owner operator co-ops, or a combination of both.

The "revolt", will no longer settle for more of the same or selling the national estate down the river of no return!

Bring on the next election and the binding plebiscite that it entails!

End of story and the endless change free, two party preferred status quo!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 21 November 2016 12:11:45 PM
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