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Thoughts on the plebiscite : Comments

By Michael Thompson, published 24/8/2016

Opposition to a plebiscite basically assumes that the public will vote against gay marriage, so a plebiscite shouldn't be held because the public have no rights in this matter.

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twelve times the Parliament has voted against perverting the marriage act. Now the elite don't want the public to have a say. They hate democracy even more than stalinist.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 10:45:14 AM
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Agree with Aidan here, and add, we need to remain vigilant on the language chosen to pose the question?

Which should remain a simple yes or no? Should two people who love each other, regardless of their sexual orientation, be permitted to marry?

Other examples like, do you approve of homosexual marriage/sex need to be weeded out, given they pose an entirely irrelevant/very different question or give the homophobes oxygen for their often devious discrimination or barely veiled hate speech.

We should put this question to the people and organise like the irish family and friend based activism so it can't be misrepresented or deliberately and disingenuously misinterpreted, the tactics used by some devious devotees to defeat the, do you want an Australian as head of state question!

And if we are to have an expensive referendum, why can't we also ask if our aboriginal brothers be included in the constitution as the recognized original inhabitants/occupants, And should Australians, like every other modern western civilization, have an irrevocable bill of rights? And should our head of state be an Australian? In a four for the price of one outcome?

With that done and dusted! The proposed mechanics can be separated out and then put as viable options later! To avoid the usual reasons (built in complexity; and or, too much information) referendums fail!

At the end of the day, the people need to answer the simply put questions and resoundingly!

Otherwise the anti gay activists, white supremacists, assorted control freaks, fruit loops and medieval homophobes, will never accept that a majority of Australians are in favour of equal rights/reasonable acceptance/recognition/a republic?

And may even use their patently mistaken belief to continue their fully imported persecution/risible rabble rousing/victorian subservance?

Nor do we need Brits and others, who've done nothing but every which way harm to their own country, coming here with a patently palpable toffee nosed superiority complex/obnoxious attitudes, trying to insist that caused action and opinion are one and the same thing! We really have tolerated far too much of this cleverly camouflaged, spanner in the spokes activism?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:42:32 AM
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"Should two people who love each other, regardless of their sexual orientation, be permitted to marry?"

Do they have to love each other? How would you test for this to make sure that people are not marrying for money, company or to bring someone into the country? Love has nothing to do with it. It is purely a civil arrangement which anyone is free to abuse however they like.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:49:12 AM
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I am calling Alan B out as a racist! What has he got against people from Britain.
This disgusting racist slur is an outrage. I will have to go and have a lie down. I am here referring to all the Britons who are black of course (There are many) because no white person is worthy of any sort of protection from Alan B's particular brand of fascist racism.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 12:50:03 PM
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I don't think about the plebiscite, what a complete waste of time and a fruitless distraction from the REAL problems facing Australia in coming years.

The yanks legislated it in at federal level, the Irish have done it too and numerous other countries that I don't care to mention, "Google it" I use that term loosely as there are other search engines, you'll see how many...

In my humble opinion, just legalise it so we can get to the more important matters at hand like creating more employment and at least maintaining our current standards of living..
Posted by Rojama, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 1:07:29 PM
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Start you're article with a strawman, and you're bound to get the Rubes approval, but little else.

If the Author is suggesting that then PM Tony"Abort" came up with the plebiscite idea in the same way that the republican referendum was carefully constructed to get a no vote then you're in the wrong game.

You can see by the post on this site what the religious and right wing nuts would do and say during the led up to the plebiscite.

If little johnny could change the law to preclude gay marriage without a plebiscite, indeed without a public debate why can't the Parliament reverse it?

As for the cost of the plebiscite 160 million for a non-binding vote is not acceptable.

@ JBowyer are you serious given that Pedophilia is largely committed by heterosexuals and quite famously by the church and family members what exactly is your point. As for your comments about the ABC can you point to one instance where the ABC has suggested that Pedophilia or bestiality should be legal?

I think you need to wipe your mouth mate you're foaming
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 2:20:28 PM
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