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Fear is not necessarily bigotry but we need to overcome it : Comments

By Rivka Witenberg, published 28/7/2016

In psychology we recognise at least five basic threats with the fear of extinction being the most prominent one.

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What has happened in France is an example which we dare not ignore.
I note today that France has decided to recruit an official vigilante corp.
They just do not have a big enough army to protect the public to the level expected.

Chereful said;
There may be a limit to how many attacks the people in Europe will
tolerate before military rule will have to be put on the streets
instead of the police force.

They had already almost done that but they have realised it will take
a civil force to protect the French people.
This move must surely be the first sign that a civil war will occur if
the moslems push back against this new force on the streets.

Fear of moslems is real and no one can deny the reality. We are all
aware that the risk driving on the road may well be greater, but the
fear is not so much for ourselves but for what it will mean for the
country if a major attack takes place here. It would not longer be
the same country.

Have a look at any moslem country. Do you think Australia would be any
different to those countries if moslems got control ?
Of cause not, that is they way they are. They come here because we
have done all the work over the last 200 years and they want a piece
of it also. They would spoil it because that is the nature of their
religion and government.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 1 August 2016 6:07:48 PM
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Over in Europe, where a justifiable fear of Islam is now manifest, Dutch, German, and Danish men have been driving to Austria to stock up on guns and ammo. Austrian gun shops are almost out of stock. Civil war anyone?

Since European governments have abrogated their responsibility to protect their own citizens, Maybe Europe needs a Second Amendment, and the yanks were not so stupid after all?

There seems to be a unholy alliance between 60's era Politicians, the Police, the Press, and the leftist Prats, to stop anyone looking at thee truth. Obama and Malcolm won't even say the word "Islam" when referring to the latest Islamic atrocity. The French Premier warns the French to "get used to terror." The German press's now famous headline of "Syrian Refugee Killed in Berman Blast" will go down in history as a prime example of some form of collective insanity. While Muslims and North Africans run riot, the German Police is using ex-Stasi operators to track down any German using the internet to post any derogatory statements about Muslim refugees raping and robbing Germans.

But perhaps the funniest example of the fundamentalist tolerance mindset is the fact hat the Swedish bureaucrat responsible for stamping out "Islamophobia" in Sweden went to Syria and joined ISIS. Not a joke. It really happened. Leftists apparently love Islam because they both hate democracy and love totalitarianism.

The head of French security is now talking out outright civil war. 'Aux Barricades!" French people are singing "La Marseilles"

Citizens arise!
Form battalions!
Let us irrigate the fields in the blood of our enemies!

(Catchy, isn't it?)

Meanwhile, back at he ranch, Rivka Wittenburg writes a puff piece so out of touch with reality that you can only shake your head in pitying wonder that people can actually think that way. Her utopian world is crashing around her head and she still tries to solve everything by crooning "All You Need is Love."

Just remember that we racists said, "We told you so!"
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 1 August 2016 8:29:55 PM
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Lego...
I don't wish to sound too critical of your attitude to the fear of Muslims displayed consistently on these pages; but I feel you display a mindset which is simply not coping with fear!
What should we fear the most, an IED in a shopping centre, or an atomic bomb detonation in a city centre?
Which event do you have the most control over, in the pre-detonation period?
I would suggest neither of those scenarios can we control as individuals.
If I were to be constantly fearful of shark attack, I would simply stay out of the water. And that is what most people do.

A few weeks ago, I was the lone diver in a salvage operation, raising a sunken fishing trawler in bull shark infested waters. Best way to deal with fear is ignore it, invariably fear is simply panic in the making! I have mastered the fear of sharks over many years. Fearing sharks is very normal, mad if you don't!

As Jaeb nominated, go forward into the ambush; brilliant strategy. To extrapolate that point, when dealing with sharks in close proximity, never take your eyes off the shark! But on the other hand, when dealing with a crocodile, engaging eye contact ensures your chances as the crocodile breakfast! (Never smile at a crocodile).

And so, fear needs a strategy. The official response of Government to quell the fear of Islam in the community, to sensible people, is a sign of brilliance, not weakness. One war front is enough to deal with. Dealing with a "panicked" public is a far worse problem than Islam. That situation would best be described as Civil War. The crowd will always take fear to the next level; panic!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 7:02:53 AM
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Diver Dan

They can keep dampening down the reactions to terrorist attacks
but for how long. Really, I guess, they have left themselves no choice
It's either dampen it down or we'll be fighting the muslims in an all out civil war,
here as well as in the middle East.
By the way, thats what Osama Bin Laden tried to do, when he commanded
all muslims to rise up in Western countries in Jihad. He could clearly see the opportunity.
But he made his move too soon, the muslims in Western countries didnt
have enough numbers at the time to risk it.

Maybe they can keep a lid on it for a long time but at any point in coming
years or decades, that underlying hostility simmering just below the surface
can explode into civil war, no matter what anyone does to stop it.

We warned them about this, but the pompous, academic,political elite in this
country, told us we were wrong, because we were only the ignorant, bigoted
underclasses, unlike their amazing intellectual selves.
Still, they deny whats happening in the world all around them, desperately
attacking those who were right all along while they cling to their utopian,
left wing hippy, new world order view.

The ABC and Q&A, being a prime example of so called intellectuals having
lost the plot. Meanwhile the fabric of Europe and Western society, is in
danger of crumbling around their ears
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:04:40 AM
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To Diver Dan

Once again, you are implying that fear of Islam is an irrational fear. By what convoluted logic you came to that conclusion you did not bother to enlighten us with.

Unlike yourself, I will demonstrate clearly why western people should fear Islam and not allow it to gain any further purchase in this country.

Islam is a "religion" invented by a genocidal warlord to both justify military expansion and to make his warriors invincible in battle. For over 1000 years that formula worked a treat and Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian cultures were driven back by an ever expanding Islam. The religious scriptures of Islam are clearly offensive to non Muslims and they order Muslims to kill, mutilate, humiliate and rape non Muslims. None of their religious leaders today renounce those offensive scriptures and whereas their polished spokesmen will make statements in the most general terms condemning terrorism, they never specifically condemn the actions of those terrorists who are doing exactly what their god, prophet and scriptures order them to do.

Even a person such as yourself, who is obviously suffering from serious oxygen depletion of the brain caused by your work, should be able to make the connection that the amount of social strife and terrorism in any society hosting Muslims is directly proportional to the numbers of Muslims within it. What we are witnessing in Europe today is what is going to happen in Australia in twenty years time. We must make the intelligent choice to ban Muslim immigration now. We may be able to integrate the ones we already have, but even that is doubtful.

In the name of a misplaced tolerance, we have imported an entire population of people who are dedicated to our own destruction. We can keep on deluding ourselves that Islam is just like every other religion, or we can use our non oxygen depleted brains, and use our eyes, to see that it most clearly is not like any other religion. Other than, of course, the Japanese Aum, the Thuggees, or the Ananda Marg.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 6:43:32 AM
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Your very entertaining Lego LOL...
Hope the big bad Muslims don't get you!
I happen to be dining out with my favourite Muslims tonight!
Halal at the pub, you might say!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 9:03:10 AM
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