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Death of majority governments : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 20/6/2016

This political deadlock will be profound, significant and long term, causing a long awaited upheaval in the structure of political parties.

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An exercise in wishful thinking Everald?

Bill Shorten is indeed narrowing the gap, but is behind in at least 8 critical seats? If labor loses in an honorable close run thing, (likely) will the new rules allow someone else to take over? And who would want the most invidious position of opposition leader, Mr 707 or A recycled Dr No? Thus ensuring the defeat becomes even more profound be repeating it the next time round as a veritable landslide?

Someone needs to cut through the apathy that is the political scene with some visionary big ideas, but even more importantly bring to the table a doable plan on how we are going to do and afford that?

Something that will motivate the around 40% of informal voters to change track, get excited and get involved?

I believe we could leverage most of our own super by legislating certain bond issues would generate tax free income and sensible given most off this money is invested offshore where we earn no tax revenue either! And are deprived of any of the otherwise considerable economic benefit that would be ours if we could incentivize investment outcomes here, which given that was mostly income earning infrastructure, could not only generate income but some tax liability into the bargain?

The wisdom being 50% of something is going to be worth much more and way out of sight compared to the 100% of nothing we earn now!

If folks just stopped worrying solely about winning and just concentrated on the best possible outcomes for the folks (one Nation) they allegedly serve? The best folks with the best bipartisan ideas would carry the day?

The fact that this never ever happens, testament to the current parlous state of the polls?

I like many other swinging voters have already decided how we will vote and need something like a blinding light road to Damascus revelation to change our mind!

Malcolm just needs a fair go and from his side of politics to ensure the government is returned and able to govern in its own right!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 20 June 2016 9:40:03 AM
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AlanB
Sometimes your profound, sometimes you fall over your dreams, this is one of the latter!
I think it all quite delusional to think that either Liberal or Labor parties, are a saving force for the future of Australia!
And to think as you do, that Malcolm Turnbull is the saviour we have all longed for, to be fit for the purpose, invites a diagnosis which would be insulting to you!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 20 June 2016 9:53:52 AM
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Thank you, Everald: Let us pray that you be correct.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 20 June 2016 9:55:26 AM
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Sometimes I think you're right Diver. And wish in my heart of hearts it could be different!

Australia could be a vastly different and a literal paradise on earth if we were GOVERNED rather than RULED by folk who genuinely believed in Australia and we Australians, new and old. Rather than setting divide and rule paradigms that effectively set us against each other!

We are one of the wealthiest nations on the planet with some of the poorest folks scratching a bare existence in it. Simply put, disadvantage trickles ever on, ever upward until all but the top 1% are worse off!

And it really could be so different if those who "LEAD" just used the brains they were born with and stopped with the endless forelock tugging and the dependance it creates in us. Which in turn allows the ruling class to sell us and ours down the river of no return?

I confess, I'm a bit of a dreamer and have some formerly impossible goals in my bucket list!

I believe that someday we will not only sail ships under the sea, learn to fly, and in planes that hold a couple of B doubles as commonplace freight forwarding, send men to the moon and then the stars. Impossible?

I've seen a man with half his brain shot away not only live, walk and talk again but to take a useful part in society. [Well 'e were a Pom an' not using the ovver 'alf.]

I've seen a bloke drowned and underwater for an impossible ten minutes and owes his current and completely normal existence to folk that didn't accept imposible as part of their vocabulary.

I've read of a young Australian surviving a very long term coma, awakening able to speak fluent mandarin!

I could write a book, in fact somebody has and you should read it? It is an ivy league produced non fiction study, called life after life, and makes the entirely impossible seem commonplace.

What the mind of man can conceive and believe, the mind of man can achieve!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 20 June 2016 11:11:14 AM
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Unfortunately Everald could be right.

The national parliament could become as dysfunctional as the worst of local councils, where ego & avarice rule, & nothing of value can be achieved.

This is of course a function of politics, where parties chose a "leader" rather than a manager. You end up, as we have, with 2 totally unelectable dills offered for the top job. Just a glance at the leaders of the recent past shows how bad they are. Churchill, Hitler, Starlin & chairman Mao show how dangerous to the average man are leaders. Thank god we don't have any real leaders, just these pretenders.

This leaves me with the choice with our ridiculous system in the house, of voting informal, or having my vote filter down to one of these 2 disgusting twerps. I suppose I can give the least like candidate a vote which may save his/her deposit at least, & chose the lesser of 2 evils.

For the "upper house" [joke] at least I can make sure none of the above or the Greens receive my preference. Thus I will probably vote for the wrong candidates, as I find it very difficult to gain enough certainty on policies of the less favoured.

Isn't it disgusting that I am much more certain of who I definitely don't want, than who I do.

Where did my country go?
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 20 June 2016 1:52:29 PM
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No mention of ALA - Why?
Posted by Peter of Townsville, Monday, 20 June 2016 2:09:43 PM
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Yes, even ALA if that's what it takes - anything to scrape the glue that sticks those two dinosaurs to their chairs. I am looking forward to having parliament comprise of 150 different parties and independents, all representing real people, why ALA could be one of them.
We can then try to fix the mess in the 2019 elections, once politics no longer runs along the lines of 19th-century (and early 20th) economy/class wars.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 20 June 2016 3:27:22 PM
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The whole system is a scam anyway, because here we have the two majors, as well as the greens, out selling their policies and making false and misleading promises, promises none of them cab keep.

The reason they can't keep them is because all their policies have to go through the senate to pass and if they don't pass, then the voters voted for nothing. A point in case being Abbots parental leave scheme where the gullible were sucked in simply because blind Freddie knew it was just a dream. Similar to many of labors policies right now, just dreams.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 20 June 2016 4:23:44 PM
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And I thank you too Everald ... An encouraging vision for the future! We'll need a big paddock in which to turn this dinasour political machine around, without casualties...

A very interesting year in politics, not only Australia, but the results of the Brexit loom, and U.S. congressional elections November 8 this year. All of these will be profound in their own way!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 20 June 2016 10:33:25 PM
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If the option is fragmentation into minors or a major party I don't support, give me the latter.

Malcolm's DD election should have happened months ago. He frittered away political capital and may well be left with an unworkable Senate.

Australia seems doomed to mediocrity until people see how it all isn't working. Too much energy will be spent in forming alliances and the fall outs from their disintegrations will turn politics introspective.

We don't appreciate how good we've had it for so long.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:17:50 AM
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In my view, there seems to have been a death of 'True Blue Australia' in favor of the newer and more politically correct 'Multicultural Australia'.
Whilst just a simple play on words the actual change we see taken place is significant.

Elections happening in the modern world today are very much about a theme of 'Globalism' V's 'Nationalism' and it is pushed inadvertently by politicians who don't get rich in Parliament but with the groups they work with after political life.
So the system itself and the people we elect are slowly destroying Nationalism.

I don't like the idea of globalism and anyone other that an elected Australian making decisions for us, (and especially given that we are a land nation that is an island/continent that should be self sufficient and sustainable) but our system and politicians are slowly selling us out.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 11:58:13 AM
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June 19, 2016. Sunday evening 60 Minutes program first of the three presented stories, stories on two Queensland farmers having to deal with coal gas companies, ruining farmers land, supported by government laws.

The 60 Minutes program scandalised government's roll in looking after Queensland farmers interests.

My argument here is citizens only redress is to vote for an opposition party during the next election, in some belief both two main political parties are in competition with each other, wanting to win elections because political parties want to carry out political policies. That being in government rather than opposition is politicians winning incentive in life.

I say, both main political parties don't care, as each party has a turn in government, plus everything is controlled by a not mentioned establishment committee.

60 Minutes are merely embarrassing government, dramatising transparency, independent media separation from supposed democracy government.

What's also a noticeable argument, is that Queensland government doesn't care what voters think about democracy, as media have convinced Australians democracy exists, that there's no better acceptable government system.

I express the opposite, that 60 Minutes dramatises that there exists a dictatorship establishment, blaming democracy. That the process of citizens complaining about property owners rights is futile. Governments can obtain land, negotiate a price which suits government, that complaining gets complainers nowhere.

Four Corners Monday June 6, describes money given to aboriginal associations, misappropriation, under investigation by the prime ministers department, leads absolutely nowhere.

I assume Australians are so over supplied by same repeated information, listeners don't really care about anything mentioned by serious media.
U.S. shootings I assume in North America are so overly same information updated broadcasted to media listeners, many listeners soon stop caring.

For the same reason using same tactics schooling education uses, overly supplied same information kills human curiosity.
When people lose money during a financial crises, very few persons cares about all the people who have lost money. All the people who lost money during 2007 and 2008, barely ever have their stories told by media other than Rudd's saving Australia from the Great World Recession.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 2:53:36 PM
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It would solve all this if minor parties were kept out of the senate;
But, if we did that we would be stuck forever with tweedle de and
tweedle dum with the Greens yapping along behind.
We need the small parties in the senate so that they can demonstrate
their political ability and build a support base of voters.

One suggestion was to have the senate be able to reject a bill only once.
This is the procedure in the House of Lords.

If we get a senate that rejects everything then the government will
have no choice but to go for another double dissolution.

The only other solution is to do away with the senate.
Well for me I will vote for the Australian Liberty Alliance.
Their manifesto reads well and I have no problem with it.
Their policies seem pretty level headed, no red neck bluster there.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 11:32:12 PM
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