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Australia’s future submarine: getting the facts right : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 10/5/2016

The French propulsion system is designed to feed off a nuclear reactor. Whether it can produce the claimed efficiency and quietness in the new conventional format can't be known until sea trials in the 2030s.

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Phillip S, we're getting the missiles,Australia is a partner in the new Norwegian Joint Strike Missile program, which is an air launched version of the Naval Strike missile intended for use by the new F-35 fighters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Strike_Missile
The French Barracuda submarines are armed with Block 2 Exocet and Storm Shadow missiles, but apparently the Australian variant will have an American weapons system, so something like the Rafael Popeye or Tomahawk might be used.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:19:53 PM
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All very well but how are they going yo refuel them ?
When this question was put to a cabinet minister he waffled.
Mumbled something about good commercial contracts !

Fact is after one patrol they would be tied up at the dock for the duration.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 11:39:02 PM
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Simple Bazz

Convert Australian future subs into:

A. Nuclear propelled, or

B. Coal fired

The beauty of Option B. is that Australia's submariners are multi-skilled, especially the woman - who make excellent stokers and scrubbers.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 12:02:46 PM
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F-35 fighters - You mean the over $1.3 Trillion dollar lemon.

So many faults only a fool would go into real combat flying one.

I don't mean missiles for defense I mean long range ones for offensive action in case someone attacks here.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 1:33:46 PM
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No your options no good, all the stokers have been employed by QANTAS
for use on their coal fired 747s !
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 5:06:57 PM
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Let me get this right. You are implying that the French submarines have never been operational with a deisel/electric power plant? Australia is once again buying an experimental weapon system which has never been tested? Didn't the farcical lessons involving the F111's, F18's, and Collins class submarines ever sink in?

This is insanity. In the last 50 years, it is the Australian Army which has taken ALL of the casualties against our foreign enemies. I doubt if even one airman or seaman has died in action fighting against anyone. But as usual, it is those services who do the least, which get the most.

In 1965, the Australian Army had 220 Centurion tanks. In 1980, it had 108 Leopards. Now it has 52 M1A1 Abrams tanks. The RAAF had in 1965 (I think) 150 Mirage 111 fighters, reduced to 75 F/A 18's, and will purchase a measly 50 JSF. But the damned RAN gets to double it's submarine force when it admitted once that it could not get crews to man the 6 it already had.

These subs could only be useful in a conventional war agaist China, our biggest trading partner. If China is a potential enemy, why in the hell are we allowing tens of thousands of Chinese to immigrate to Australia every year? The idea that foreign immigrants completely divest themselves of their national, religious and ethnic loyalties the second their big toe hits Australian soil, has been conclusively debunked by the actions of our Muslim "Australians" who have more of their sons fighting for ISIS than they do in the Australian Army.

We are at war with Islam at the very moment and submarines would be the least suitable weapon against this enemy. For God's sake, we don't even manufacture our own ammunition for our infantry rifles in Australia, and we are about to squander (at least) $50 billion on a submersible pork barrel which is useless for our present conflict of fighting the violent spread of Islam.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 12 May 2016 4:10:17 AM
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