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Brussels attacks: restrain and rethink : Comments

By Mal Fletcher, published 23/3/2016

Today's events in Brussels also remind us of the failure of political correctness as either a way of thinking or a government policy.

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Well doesn't Grateful take the cake ?
It is proof that Islam is tolerant and kind is that they only killed
thousands of Yazidis and took their girls as sex slaves !

uuurrrgghhh
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:25:55 PM
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Well said, Bazz.

But in this case simple facts and logic does not apply.
Posted by kactuz, Thursday, 24 March 2016 12:21:56 AM
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Bazz.
Your rage is blind. Muslims are not the problem, the good O'l Stars and Stripes is the problem.
Get ready for more Muslims in Australia, not less. Rage at American failure to acknowledge the real cost of its interventionist policies.
It's why we need a Donald Trump in Washington.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 March 2016 7:16:15 AM
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Dan
Please accept my apologies for my previous. i misread your post.

Just a note on your original post: i would have placed Arafat along side Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. Here is a partial list of the activities of the organisations that were a part of: (source: Haaretz)

There is no room here to mention all of the activities for which these organizations took responsibility, but here are a few typical cases: On 4.11.1937 - five dead and eight wounded in shooting at a bus in the Jerusalem suburb of Romema; 16.7.38 - 10 killed and three wounded including four women, a boy and young girl, by a bomb hidden in a basket of vegetables; 26.7.38 - 27 killed and 46 wounded when a bomb exploded in Haifa's Arab market; 29.5.39 - five killed and 18 wounded when mines were detonated in the Rex Cinema in Jerusalem, and among the seriously wounded were a Jewish man and woman; 20.6.39 - 78 killed by a bomb in the Haifa vegetable market.

And we have not mentioned the best known incidents - the explosion at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, the massacre at Dir Yassin, the executions of Jews who were suspected of cooperating with the foreign occupier (at least 10 cases ), and the assassinations of some of the representatives of His Majesty's government and of the international community in the region or in the country.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/are-begin-and-shamir-also-considered-terrorists-1.369342

As for ISIS, the comparison would be better with the Tartars after invasion of Baghdad, the Crusades or Inquisitions.

So ISIS and the PLO were/are, if anything, products of a Western tradition...not an Islamic tradition
Posted by grateful, Thursday, 24 March 2016 9:55:38 AM
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Good one grateful...

Exactly the point I make...lifted from your link...

**However, my methodological mistake does not alter their(terrorists at the time), biographies. Many people who headed movements of national liberation adopted violent and indiscriminate methods of resistance that brought death and injury to the innocent and the wicked alike, to civilians as well as soldiers, and which deliberately sowed panic among the public. We have to be sorry but not to deny this, and those who do the rewriting should not be hopeful. Later on, the terrorists became legitimate leaders, presidents and prime ministers; and Begin and Shamir are among these.**

This succession of ISIS attacks on the public, follow a set tried and tested form. Well done for pointing that out grateful!

Gorilla attacks like these are impossible to eliminate. The West has form here! It follows a simple formula, keep your friends close, but your enemies "closer"!

Left wing ideologists will be used to befriend the enemy, ISIS this time too. A contrived move to keep the enemies of the West closer, and the status quo intact.
And since the machinery of the West operates for that purpose, the influence of Donald Trump will be eliminated at an appropriate moment, he is bad for business: the business of the Capitalist THE status quo that matters!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 March 2016 12:36:59 PM
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Bazz,
Your ability, or perhaps willingness, to reason is severely limited so i will try to explain in more detail.

Firstly, you argue that the actions of ISIS represents Islamic teachings. You argue that their actions can be traced back to the example of the Prophet and that this has been the tradition of Islam. But you fail to see the contradiction: If what you are saying about traditional Islam is true, then all other religions--- people and their places of worship --- would have disappeared long ago.

Is Donald Trump your answer? Well, if you thought victory of Hitler, Mussolini or Putin would have been a good thing for the values you stand for then your answer is likely to be yes. If you think the only solution is to declare war on all Muslims then again your answer is likely to be yes.

However, it sounds to me that you are repudiating Australian values, not upholding them. As a reminder, these are the values immigrants are asked to commit to:
• respect for the freedom and dignity of the individual:
• freedom of religion;
• commitment to the rule of law;
• Parliamentary democracy;
• equality of men and women;
• a spirit of egalitarianism that embraces mutual respect,
tolerance, fair play and compassion for those in need and
pursuit of the public good;
• equality of opportunity for individuals, regardless of their
race, religion or ethnic background

Aligning with Trump would be a repudiation of these values. Indeed, if people like Trump so much, then go live in the US,... or Russia... or any place but here.

Australia doesn't not need your type breaking up communities and teaching kids to hate.
Posted by grateful, Thursday, 24 March 2016 1:06:08 PM
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